• Got Floppy?

    From Ed Vance@21:1/175 to Mortar M. on Fri Apr 25 22:08:11 2025
    Speaking of the media being flexible.

    When the Zip Drive began selling I wasn't wanting to buy one of them because a couple years earlier I saw a 40MB SyQuest removable disk hard drive had Metal media inside its plastic case.

    The Zip Drive media was flexible as Flopoies are.

    SyQuest staered advertising that they were going to make a EZ-135 Drive and I waited until they sold it and got one because the media was metal just like the platter in a HDD is .

    SyQuest went out of business shortly later.
    Ed
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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Ed Vance on Sat Apr 26 22:35:04 2025
    Ed Vance wrote to Mortar M. <=-

    Speaking of the media being flexible.

    When the Zip Drive began selling I wasn't wanting to buy one of them because a couple years earlier I saw a 40MB SyQuest removable disk hard drive had Metal media inside its plastic case.

    The Zip Drive media was flexible as Flopoies are.

    SyQuest staered advertising that they were going to make a EZ-135 Drive and I waited until they sold it and got one because the media was metal just like the platter in a HDD is .

    SyQuest went out of business shortly later.


    I have one of those drives in a Pentium PC that I've good, along with
    some 40M and 200M SyQuest disks. Interesting hardware indeed, but I
    obtained it *after* I bought a Zip Drive.

    The Zip Drive is mostly dead, failed, but the SyQuest drive and Disks
    mostly work.

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to MORTAR M. on Sat Apr 26 08:17:56 2025
    Quoting Mortar M. to Nigel Reed <=-

    Then again, [why] are 3 1/2" disks called floppies because they're not floppy at all.

    Depends on your perspective. True, the outer shell isn't floppy, but
    the actual media is.

    They're hard on the outside and floppy in the innards! 5 1/2" disks are
    floppy on the inside and the outside. And one more thing, stationary
    mice have bigger balls.

    ;D


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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to ROON on Sat Apr 26 08:17:56 2025
    Quoting Roon to Phigan <=-

    Do you think it's acceptable to call a PC optical drive a
    "player"? I feel like that's not even really accurate, because
    when you're watching

    It totally bugs me when it's acceptable to call things what they
    aren't!

    like calling something 'milk' when it's not coming from a mammal? :)

    Let me explain for Phi - he means it totally irritates (=bugs) him when
    it's acceptable to call (or use as a description in a sentence) things
    what they aren't.

    Is that more crystal?

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Apr 26 08:17:56 2025
    Quoting Nightfox to Roon <=-

    Re: Is a PC optical drive a "player"?
    By: Roon to phigan on Fri Apr 25 2025 02:01 pm

    It totally bugs me when it's acceptable to call things what they aren't!

    like calling something 'milk' when it's not coming from a mammal? :)

    Yeah.. How exactly do you milk an almond? :P

    The same way you milk a maroon!

    ... Mind... Mind... Let's see, I had one of those around here someplace.

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  • From StormTrooper@21:2/108 to boraxman on Sat Apr 26 20:24:51 2025
    The Zip Drive is mostly dead, failed, but the SyQuest drive and Disks mostly work.

    Interesting, back then I had a Syquest hitched to a IIgs. I never had to many carts for it.... I'm also unsure if its an indictment of the carts or the platform but I found them unsuitable for long term storage. The file systems tended to end up corrupt over a period of time, either as a boot device or storage.

    ST

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Ed Vance on Sat Apr 26 12:40:26 2025
    Re: Got Floppy?
    By: Ed Vance to Mortar M. on Fri Apr 25 2025 10:08 pm

    When the Zip Drive began selling I wasn't wanting to buy one of them because a couple years earlier I saw a 40MB SyQuest removable disk hard drive had Metal media inside its plastic case.

    SyQuest staered advertising that they were going to make a EZ-135 Drive and I waited until they sold it and got one because the media was metal just like the platter in a HDD is .

    SyQuest went out of business shortly later. Ed

    For a short time, I had a SyQuest Sparq drive, which used 1GB removable hard drive cartridges. I thought it was really cool, but I didn't know anyone else who had a Sparq drive (maybe just one of my friends). I later got a zip drive though, because my college had some computers that had zip drives.

    I thought the late 90s was an interesting time with all those different removable media formats being released - especilly with 2 different ones from the same company (Syquest's Sparq and the 440MB one you mentioned).

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Apr 27 10:16:35 2025
    Quoting Nightfox to Ed Vance <=-

    Re: Got Floppy?

    I thought the late 90s was an interesting time with all those
    different removable media formats being released - especilly with 2 different ones from the same company (Syquest's Sparq and the 440MB
    one you mentioned).

    Technology is like a river...

    8 inch, 5.25 inch, 3.5 inch, single sided, double sided, low density,
    high density...

    It's like floating down a river, once you pass that dock there's no
    going back. Unless, like me you stop there and are happy with the
    place. My 386 has both 5.25 and 3.5 inch drives. Until they quit
    working, I'm happy with them.

    Some analogy right?

    Cougar


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  • From Joe Phigan@21:1/201 to Nightfox on Sun Apr 27 23:18:37 2025
    Re: Re: Is a PC optical drive a "player"?
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Apr 27 2025 05:42 pm

    I wonder how many companies have an

    Most of the time, the company builds
    the office (or whatever) building over
    a blank slate of land. When new roads
    get built as a result of them building
    stuff on that land, they get to name
    the roads. Same goes if you buy land
    out in the middle of nowhere and make a
    road that leads to it off the highway.
    You get to name it.

    This is how someone I knew had a house
    on the corner of "Here To There" and
    "This Is It".
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  • From mary4@21:1/204 to Mortar M. on Fri May 9 04:58:47 2025
    Depends on your perspective. True, the outer shell isn't floppy, but the actual media is.
    i love my 5.25" 13cm DISKS! those are PEAK COOL!

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  • From mary4@21:1/204 to Cougar428 on Fri May 9 05:05:22 2025
    They're hard on the outside and floppy in the innards! 5 1/2" disks are
    floppy on the inside and the outside. And one more thing, stationary
    mice have bigger balls.

    LMAO XD
    this is too funny!

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  • From mary4@21:1/204 to Cougar428 on Fri May 9 05:11:14 2025
    Technology is like a river...

    8 inch, 5.25 inch, 3.5 inch, single sided, double sided, low density,
    high density...

    It's like floating down a river, once you pass that dock there's no
    going back. Unless, like me you stop there and are happy with the
    place. My 386 has both 5.25 and 3.5 inch drives. Until they quit
    working, I'm happy with them.

    i love my working disks and drives too!

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to MARY4 on Fri May 9 09:23:16 2025
    Quoting Mary4 to Cougar428 <=-

    They're hard on the outside and floppy in the innards! 5 1/2" disks are
    floppy on the inside and the outside. And one more thing, stationary
    mice have bigger balls.

    LMAO XD
    this is too funny!

    Sorry about that one! It was something passed around back in the day...

    Have a great day!

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to MARY4 on Fri May 9 09:23:16 2025
    Quoting Mary4 to Cougar428 <=-

    Technology is like a river...

    8 inch, 5.25 inch, 3.5 inch, single sided, double sided, low density,
    high density...

    It's like floating down a river, once you pass that dock there's no
    going back. Unless, like me you stop there and are happy with the
    place. My 386 has both 5.25 and 3.5 inch drives. Until they quit
    working, I'm happy with them.

    i love my working disks and drives too!

    I guess we're part of an exclusive club!

    I know there are better and more efficient ways to store and use data,
    but this tech is what I know and grew on. Yeah, I do have newer systems
    but my old ones keep on churning data for me.

    Have a great day!

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  • From Boraxman@21:2/138 to mary4 on Fri May 9 08:30:32 2025
    Re: Re: Got Floppy?
    By: mary4 to Mortar M. on Fri May 09 2025 04:58 am

    Depends on your perspective. True, the outer shell isn't floppy, but the actual media is.
    i love my 5.25" 13cm DISKS! those are PEAK COOL!

    They're great, but i'm a 3.5" inch enjoyer... Peak floppy.
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  • From Boraxman@21:2/138 to Cougar428 on Fri May 9 08:39:31 2025
    Re: Re: Got Floppy?
    By: Cougar428 to MARY4 on Fri May 09 2025 09:23 am

    Quoting Mary4 to Cougar428 <=-

    Technology is like a river...

    8 inch, 5.25 inch, 3.5 inch, single sided, double sided, low density,
    high density...

    It's like floating down a river, once you pass that dock there's no
    going back. Unless, like me you stop there and are happy with the
    place. My 386 has both 5.25 and 3.5 inch drives. Until they quit
    working, I'm happy with them.

    i love my working disks and drives too!

    I guess we're part of an exclusive club!

    I know there are better and more efficient ways to store and use data,
    but this tech is what I know and grew on. Yeah, I do have newer systems
    but my old ones keep on churning data for me.

    Have a great day!

    I've got two systems which have both a HD 3.5" and 5.25" drives, plus an additional one or two of each in other machines. Heaps of disks, but I'm reluctant to use them as they need to be treated with care are are appraoching an age were reading them can just cause damage.
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  • From mary4@21:1/204 to Boraxman on Sat May 10 13:26:20 2025
    They're great, but i'm a 3.5" inch enjoyer... Peak floppy.
    i can respect that! <3

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  • From jimmylogan@21:1/137 to Nightfox on Fri May 9 23:10:50 2025
    Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I've been seeing more and more posts online recently where people have said they've gotten back to buying (or started buying) physical media because they're frustrated with streaming services removing things &
    such.

    A buddy of mine was telling me today about a book he found called
    "Revenge of Analog." It's about the cultural shift of buying
    physical media.

    We talked about back in the day when you'd see a comic on the
    shelf / spinner rack and that's how you learned about it!

    You'd buy a record and have to go through the trouble of
    playing it - so you didn't just skip to the next one, etc.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to jimmylogan on Sat May 10 08:24:07 2025
    jimmylogan wrote to Nightfox <=-

    You'd buy a record and have to go through the trouble of
    playing it - so you didn't just skip to the next one, etc.

    I usually bought cassettes, lending themselves more to listening
    straight through. LPs were made to be listened to straight through, had
    a flow, and I miss that.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to jimmylogan on Sat May 10 08:42:44 2025
    Re: Is a PC optical drive a "
    By: jimmylogan to Nightfox on Fri May 09 2025 11:10 pm

    I've been seeing more and more posts online recently where people have
    said they've gotten back to buying (or started buying) physical media
    because they're frustrated with streaming services removing things &
    such.

    A buddy of mine was telling me today about a book he found called "Revenge of Analog." It's about the cultural shift of buying physical media.

    The title feels like a bit of a misnomer.. A lot of the physical media in use today (CDs, DVDs, blu-ray, 4K blu-ray) are digital formats. And I still feel like the use of the term "digital" to refer to online streaming is a little weird (since the aforementioned physical formats are digital media).

    We talked about back in the day when you'd see a comic on the shelf / spinner rack and that's how you learned about it!

    You'd buy a record and have to go through the trouble of playing it - so you didn't just skip to the next one, etc.

    I don't recall if I'd seen that, but that's cool. I do remember in the late 90s/early 2000s, some music stores (such as Tower Records) started having spots on the rack with headphones and would let you choose from a selection of albums or songs to listen to.

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  • From Cougar428@21:2/156 to BORAXMAN on Sat May 10 11:58:22 2025
    Quoting Boraxman to Cougar428 <=-

    I've got two systems which have both a HD 3.5" and 5.25" drives, plus
    an additional one or two of each in other machines. Heaps of disks,
    but I'm reluctant to use them as they need to be treated with care are
    are appraoching an age were reading them can just cause damage. -!-

    I can understand where you're coming from, I used to purchase boxes of
    100 ea and split the cost with someone, so I still have new 3.5 disks
    that have never been used yet. That doesn't neccesarily mean that they
    are OK, but might have a better chance at error free disks.

    Of all the disks I use, I reformat them pretty often using C2PC and
    have only had a minor amount of them go bad. Of course if you have
    important data on that bad sector...

    Have a great day!

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  • From StormTrooper@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 11 04:38:24 2025
    I usually bought cassettes, lending themselves more to listening

    I tended to buy cassettes too, mostly because it was the age of the walkman.. I just didn't have a portable turntable with headphones :P

    ST

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  • From Mortar M.@21:2/101 to Boraxman on Sun May 11 02:21:34 2025
    Re: Re: Got Floppy?
    By: Boraxman to mary4 on Fri May 09 2025 08:30:32

    I'm a 3.5" inch enjoyer...

    There's a joke in there somewhere.
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  • From mary4@21:1/204 to Mortar M. on Mon May 12 05:38:19 2025
    I'm a 3.5" inch enjoyer...

    There's a joke in there somewhere.
    LOL XD

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  • From jimmylogan@21:1/137 to Nightfox on Sun May 11 18:09:44 2025
    Nightfox wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    Re: Is a PC optical drive a "
    By: jimmylogan to Nightfox on Fri May 09 2025 11:10 pm

    I've been seeing more and more posts online recently where people have
    said they've gotten back to buying (or started buying) physical media
    because they're frustrated with streaming services removing things &
    such.

    A buddy of mine was telling me today about a book he found called "Revenge of Analog." It's about the cultural shift of buying physical media.

    The title feels like a bit of a misnomer.. A lot of the physical media
    in use today (CDs, DVDs, blu-ray, 4K blu-ray) are digital formats. And
    I still feel like the use of the term "digital" to refer to online streaming is a little weird (since the aforementioned physical formats
    are digital media).

    True, but books and vinyl? Those aren't digital. But yes, digital content,
    but having a physical copy of it so you're not dependant on streaming
    or the cloud.

    I don't recall if I'd seen that, but that's cool. I do remember in the late 90s/early 2000s, some music stores (such as Tower Records) started having spots on the rack with headphones and would let you choose from
    a selection of albums or songs to listen to.

    I don't know that I ever went to a Tower Records, but it was common
    around here too. The headphones to sample stuff.


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  • From paul@21:3/195 to mary4 on Wed May 14 20:20:27 2025
    8 inch, 5.25 inch, 3.5 inch, single sided, double sided, low density
    high density...
    It's like floating down a river, once you pass that dock there's no
    going back. Unless, like me you stop there and are happy with the
    place. My 386 has both 5.25 and 3.5 inch drives. Until they quit
    working, I'm happy with them.


    Still using my 5.25 drive on my Atari 800 and 130xe computers!

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  • From Dr. What@21:1/616 to paul on Thu May 15 08:06:21 2025
    paul wrote to mary4 <=-

    Still using my 5.25 drive on my Atari 800 and 130xe computers!

    I gave that up with my Commodore 64 and Plus/4, but I still have the drive hooked up, just in case.

    But I do still use floppy disks with my Kaypro 4/84. And I still have a 5.25" 360K drive in my Sperry HT - to write new software to those Kaypro disks.


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  • From mary4@21:2/150 to paul on Thu May 15 10:17:25 2025
    Still using my 5.25 drive on my Atari 800 and 130xe computers!
    nice! <3

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