It happened often enough that there was a term for it - LUG, or Lesbian
Until Graduation. Lots of heartache among my friends.
I've known women who went through that, one or two. One stated that they broke up with a guy, and decided to try women. Its interesting how that happens, as I would wager most men would NEVER consider dating other men, simply because the last woman they were with didn't quite work out.
I don't really support the idea of "experimenting" at Uni. You should be finding reality, finding your feet, not going off on tangents that lead nowhere.
boraxman wrote to Adept <=-
A very strange way for an SSH client to behave! To literally insert
the same characters, but backwards at the end!
I've heard of guys "experimenting" in college too. And for some peple,
I think going off on tangents and experimenting in college may actually
be a way to find reality. As they say sometimes, you never know until
you try..
Meghan Fitzgerald wrote to boraxman <=-
On 15 Apr 2025 at 06:52p, Meghan Fitzgerald pondered and said...
I am new to this FSX. How is everyone?
Meg
Welcome. Obviously not your first time on BBS?
No not my first time. I have been using this one here for many years
and now that I am getting close to retirement with more free time I
wanted to get back into this. I used FidoNet a LONG time ago and am starting to get back into it. I don't like the way social media today looks and feels. This is what I remember most. Have a great day and
thanks for writing back to me. Meg
Nightfox wrote to boraxman <=-
Re: Re: New to this
By: boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Apr 26 2025 01:47 am
It happened often enough that there was a term for it - LUG, or Lesbian
Until Graduation. Lots of heartache among my friends.
I've known women who went through that, one or two. One stated that they broke up with a guy, and decided to try women. Its interesting how that happens, as I would wager most men would NEVER consider dating other men, simply because the last woman they were with didn't quite work out.
I don't really support the idea of "experimenting" at Uni. You should be finding reality, finding your feet, not going off on tangents that lead nowhere.
I've heard of guys "experimenting" in college too. And for some peple,
I think going off on tangents and experimenting in college may actually
be a way to find reality. As they say sometimes, you never know until
you try..
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to boraxman <=-
boraxman wrote to Adept <=-
A very strange way for an SSH client to behave! To literally insert
the same characters, but backwards at the end!
62 TOR encryption?
covered in the program. Having a diploma to also say you've completed
the program seems redundant to me (and I don't recall seeing a college
in my area issuing dimplomas separately). I have an associates and a
It happened often enough that there was a term for it - LUG, or Lesbian
Until Graduation. Lots of heartache among my friends.
Every week in my city they march and yell, and when you speak to them, they are utterly clueless about the politics they peddle.
I've heard of guys "experimenting" in college too. And for some peple,
I think going off on tangents and experimenting in college may actually
be a way to find reality. As they say sometimes, you never know until
you try..
I could never understand why people just automatically go to college
with no idea what they want to study. I knew years before I started
Experimenting would be trying new hobbies, joining groups, societies, finding what you like. Just smoking weed, getting drunk and doing
drugs though...
Quoting Nightfox to Adept <=-
Re: Re: New to this
By: Adept to Nightfox on Thu Apr 24 2025 05:41 pm
What's the difference between a college diploma and a college degree?
The diploma is the piece of paper that says you've graduated / finished the program. It likely will mention the degree that was earned.
Isn't the degree also a confirmation that you've graduated and
completed the program? My understanding is that the degree says
you've graduated & completed the program and are thus are qualified
for the material covered in the program. Having a diploma to also say you've completed the program seems redundant to me (and I don't recall seeing a college in my area issuing dimplomas separately). I have an associates and a bachelor's degree that were issued to me after I
finished the college programs but never got a college diploma issued
to me.
Quoting Boraxman to Dflorey <=-
As for politicians keeping prices high for their own personal benefit. They are traitors to their nation, and should be dealt with as such.
How people think this is acceptable, and shouldn't result in severe punishment is beyond me. But hey, thats why we're all going to end up homeless, because we accept this from them.
Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Accession <=-
I've said it before - the two classes I regret not taking in high
school were auto shop and typing.
I'm surprised that the kids in auto shop got to use the facilities
outside of class and on their own cars. Nowadays, that would be a liability nightmare.
Quoting Dmxrob to Boraxman <=-
BY: boraxman (21:1/101)
On Saturday,April 19, 2025 at 10:53 AM, Boraxman (21:1/101) wrote:
My mum is a Boomer, and she said people can just "Scrimp and Save" like
she did. I asked her how long it took to pay off the mortgage. We grew
As someone who is "older" now (50s) statements like that piss me off.
It is amazing how people 20 years older than I am think the world
hasn't changed since 1955. They don't realize, or want to
acknowledge, how many government programs and aid they had in their
day, compared to what Gen X and beyond got - which was squat.
This attitude nowadays of "I got mine, and screw you" is prevelant
with so many people of that generation, and others. They feel the
younger generation should shoulder all the burden of society and taxes while they amass even more wealth.
I'm very much against that, and
believe that EVERYONE - I don't care your age - should pay in to
taxes, etc. I don't support "senior tax freeze" nonsense. Why should young families have to "scrimp" to pay for services you are using
while you have more than enough assets to pay for own?
Quoting Boraxman to Dmxrob <=-
On 25 Apr 2025 at 10:43a, Dmxrob pondered and said...
We're in for some big trouble...
By the way, I did once work a job where I took complaints and queries about consumer products. The older people had the greatest sense of entitlement, by far. A friend who worked in a financial services
company, taking calls, had the same feedback.
I don't really like how Social Media works. Toxic, and the interface
is pretty poor too. Unfortunately, that is where the people are, but
its like having to walk into a minefield to talk to people, because
everyone else is there. You stand there and say "We shouldn't stand
in a minefield", but everyone stays, because thats where the people
are.
(in the US. The UK's version is a lot of debt, but if your job doesn't
pay well, it's irrelevant. And Germany's version is cheap.)
I've heard of guys "experimenting" in college too. And for some peple,
I think going off on tangents and experimenting in college may actually
be a way to find reality. As they say sometimes, you never know until
you try..
I could never understand why people just automatically go to college with no idea what they want to study. I knew years before I started college. Maybe some people have money to burn, but I wanted to make every day count. It took me 10 years to pay off my college loans and I would feel foolish if I wasted all of that time and money "experimenting."
boraxman wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I don't really support the idea of "experimenting" at Uni. You should
be finding reality, finding your feet, not going off on tangents that
lead nowhere.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The diploma is the piece of paper that says you achiieved a college degree.
That's something I hadn't realized, or really thought about..
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Also, "LUG" sounds like a... questionable term that dismisses young women's experiences as being a "fad". So I'd be wary on using it unless you were one of the women describing herself.
Cougar428 wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
I loved auto shop, as you mentioned I could pull my 1970 F-100 into the garage and work on the 360 for an hour! That thing was a beast. I never really took advantage of the facilities after hours though.
Adept wrote to boraxman <=-
Every week in my city they march and yell, and when you speak to them, they are utterly clueless about the politics they peddle.
To be fair, given my personal pedantry, political science degree, and long-established reading habits, I feel that about a large portion of people, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.
And, on many days, I even feel it about myself, as there are many areas where I know shockingly little. Even if I don't realize it afterward, because of the Dunning Krueger effect.
That said, in all my "reasonableness", it's the unreasonable person
that drives change, way more than I ever will.
Adept wrote to boraxman <=-
Experimenting would be trying new hobbies, joining groups, societies, finding what you like. Just smoking weed, getting drunk and doing
drugs though...
On the other hand, drinking with friends in frats is a time-honored tradition for getting ahead.
(I don't think it has worked _quite_ like that in sororities)
That said, I had a flatmate who was in school, and with whom I drank,
and somehow that turned into starting a winery.
(If I'm going to be pedantic, I'd also point out that we literally
_never_ got drunk doing this, so it's probably _technically_ closer to "trying new hobbies" than "getting drunk", but I feel as though that
ruins the entertainment value, so would be fine if people pretend this paragraph doesn't exist.)
Not that this means I disagree with your statement. I'm just prone to
some amount of being contrary because of my brain always trying to find flaws in data and arguments.
Cougar428 wrote to boraxman <=-
Quoting Boraxman to Dflorey <=-
As for politicians keeping prices high for their own personal benefit. They are traitors to their nation, and should be dealt with as such.
How people think this is acceptable, and shouldn't result in severe punishment is beyond me. But hey, thats why we're all going to end up homeless, because we accept this from them.
I do get what you were explaining, but we're all going to end up as
dust in the wind. 100 years from now, no one will even remember we were alive. Sobering.
Once you're gone, even your kids will forget. We all have to make our
own way in this world. And it all ends the same way. Apologies for the dire words...
Cougar428 wrote to boraxman <=-
Quoting Boraxman to Dmxrob <=-
On 25 Apr 2025 at 10:43a, Dmxrob pondered and said...
We're in for some big trouble...
By the way, I did once work a job where I took complaints and queries about consumer products. The older people had the greatest sense of entitlement, by far. A friend who worked in a financial services
company, taking calls, had the same feedback.
I believe I may be older than you, and I might be in a different
country. But I could tell you quite a few stories of conversations I
have had with 'younger' people who were very 'entitled'. That doesn't
mean I haven't had conversations with 'older' people whe felt
similarly
'entitled'.
I don't believe it has anything to do with age. Just the attitude of
the individuals involved. Some people think they deserve something for
nothing, others don't.
Cougar428 wrote to DMXROB <=-
Quoting Dmxrob to Boraxman <=-
BY: boraxman (21:1/101)
On Saturday,April 19, 2025 at 10:53 AM, Boraxman (21:1/101) wrote:
My mum is a Boomer, and she said people can just "Scrimp and Save" like
she did. I asked her how long it took to pay off the mortgage. We grew
As someone who is "older" now (50s) statements like that piss me off.
It is amazing how people 20 years older than I am think the world
hasn't changed since 1955. They don't realize, or want to
acknowledge, how many government programs and aid they had in their
day, compared to what Gen X and beyond got - which was squat.
I shouldn't - but I will.
I am "older" (almost 70). It's not that I think the world hasn't
changed since 1955, I tend to think more along the lines that the
peole
have changed.
I don't think I have ever received any government assistance other
than
unemployment when I was out of work temorarily. I worked at a minimum
wage job and was married with a child, but did not get food stamps.
My attitude has always been that if I didn't need assistance, I
wouldn't take it. I was raised to believe that assistance was for
those
who were unable to make it on their own. I am a veteran but don't take
advantage of free offers for that group as I don't need them. Some
folks do, and that's alright.
Younger people (not sure about gen-whatever), seem to feel entitled to
any and all assistance as if it's normal to get something for nothing.
This attitude nowadays of "I got mine, and screw you" is prevelant
with so many people of that generation, and others. They feel the
younger generation should shoulder all the burden of society and taxes while they amass even more wealth.
My attitude is more in line with I worked my whole life to get mine
and
you should probably work hard to make a life for yourself. Every young
generation shoulders it's own burden. Not the burden of society. And I
imagine alot of us 'boomers' have amassed wealth in the millions
(not).
You make it sound as if all people are greedy nasty bastards. Believe
it or not - I wish the best for all the young generation. They are the
future and I for one am proud they are going to make it on their own.
I'm very much against that, and
believe that EVERYONE - I don't care your age - should pay in to
taxes, etc. I don't support "senior tax freeze" nonsense. Why should young families have to "scrimp" to pay for services you are using
while you have more than enough assets to pay for own?
I agree with you, everyone SHOULD pay taxes. Some people are
misinformed as to who actually does pay taxes. We ALL do.
You make it out as EVERYONE didn't have to scrimp to pay for services
that they used? You make me feel like an ogre since I worked for
50 years and saved my money so I could pay my bills after I have
finished my working life. I'm here to tell you, we're not all
millionaires.
Apologies - guess I'm the one ranting now, or so it sounds to me.
boraxman wrote to Cougar428 <=-
Younger people (not sure about gen-whatever), seem to feel entitled to
any and all assistance as if it's normal to get something for nothing.
This attitude nowadays of "I got mine, and screw you" is prevelant
with so many people of that generation, and others. They feel the
younger generation should shoulder all the burden of society and taxes while they amass even more wealth.
My attitude is more in line with I worked my whole life to get mine
and
you should probably work hard to make a life for yourself. Every young
generation shoulders it's own burden. Not the burden of society. And I
imagine alot of us 'boomers' have amassed wealth in the millions
(not).
I'm very much against that, and
believe that EVERYONE - I don't care your age - should pay in to
taxes, etc. I don't support "senior tax freeze" nonsense. Why should young families have to "scrimp" to pay for services you are using
while you have more than enough assets to pay for own?
I agree with you, everyone SHOULD pay taxes. Some people are
misinformed as to who actually does pay taxes. We ALL do.
You make it out as EVERYONE didn't have to scrimp to pay for services
that they used? You make me feel like an ogre since I worked for
50 years and saved my money so I could pay my bills after I have
finished my working life. I'm here to tell you, we're not all
millionaires.
I do see where you are coming from. To clarify, I'm a dad, have a
family, kids I own my home. I have a decent job (in theory). I sort
of "made it". Sort of.
See, I only *just* scraped into getting a home, and that was largely
in part due to coming into significant money that I inherited. I was priced out of where I grew. Looking at the prospects for me children, they appear utterly dire. The city has changed *dramatically* since I
was young. I just came back from there, and now I'm a minority!
Again! I wish I could say my children will be better off, but they
won't be. And you know what, I'm old enough now to compare my adult
life now, with my adult life when I was in my early 20s, and *despite* moving to a better position, becoming a leader, I'm worse off. And
all my peers are seeing the same.
Things are going down. Its palpable. My wife knows it. My friends,
her friends. Most parents see it. Parents I talkt to at work, my age cohort, see it. Ther eis this sense we are being pushed off a
cliff. That was not the case when my parents were young. Its
something bigger, deeper. When I have to turn away job interviews for managerial roles, because I can't afford to move, things are dire.
San Francisco was a magical place back then. I feel like I just caught
the tail-end of an accepting, open, creative era that changed shortly afterwards.
Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Cougar428 <=-
A carbueretor, points, distributor, and an engine compartment big
enough to get around in - must have been nice!
On my last gas-engine car, a Toyota Prius, some engineer decided to
run the spark plugs out the back end of the transversely-mounted
engine, meaning you need to take off the wiper arms and tray and some other parts to get to the plugs! At least the 12v battery was in the trunk...
Quoting Boraxman to Cougar428 <=-
We do matter, because the decisions we make affect the future. They
may not know our names, but they WILL be impacted by what we do. So
yeah, I think we do matter, whether others know it or not!
Quoting Boraxman to Cougar428 <=-
things are dire.
psychedelic or two. I don't even think these are things for your
College days only. In fact, I think they should be done when you are
MORE mature, more responsible, and around other people who are able to
I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I've heard rumors that on some cars they 'deleted' the oil and transmission dipsticks. May be just a rumor...
Cougar428 wrote to boraxman <=-
Quoting Boraxman to Cougar428 <=-
things are dire.
Relax my friend, things will never be what they were. Those times are
past. Believe it or not, we will go on. You will continue and your
children will make their own way.
I understand it's sometimes hard to persevere, but when things look
like they are at their worst - they can only get better. Take a break
and you'll feel better.
Have a great day!
Adept wrote to boraxman <=-
psychedelic or two. I don't even think these are things for your
College days only. In fact, I think they should be done when you are
MORE mature, more responsible, and around other people who are able to
I think, with drinking, we'd probably be better off if people were
exposed to it at a young age, but in a responsible form.
Whether that'd _actually_ makes things better I leave to people who
have done good science research on the topic.
Since, yeah, the idea is about whatever brings about the best outcome,
for whatever "best" means. And I don't want to stick to my opinions if there's another path that would lead to better results for the goals I actually want.
Adept wrote to boraxman <=-
I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
I feel as though you're not committed enough.
I plan to live forever, _or die trying_.
Gotta lean into it.
(And, yes, I'm sure I shamelessly stole that from _someone_.)
StormTrooper wrote to boraxman <=-
I plan to live forever. So far, so good!
Today is a new personal record for consecutive days alive? :P
I plan to live forever, _or die trying_.
Gotta lean into it.
(And, yes, I'm sure I shamelessly stole that from _someone_.)
Today is a new personal record for consecutive days alive? :P
Maybe for you, but I'm yet to beat my old record...
boraxman wrote to Adept <=-
In continental Europe, alcohol is everywhere. You can buy a beer at McDonalds, you can see Germans drinking a beer during lunch, or even in the morning.
Build a brand, make a name for yourself, get engaged by a company and
have them hire you - that does work.
I'm hiring for the first time in 8 years. I'm curious to see how the
vetting process works, because I'm only seeing massively overqualified
candidates who I wouldn't want to work with.
I feel like that would be a strange thing to be happening. I can't say I experienced any political bias in college, but maybe some colleges & universities are doing that for some reason..
I could never understand why people just automatically go to college
with no idea what they want to study. I knew years before I started
college. Maybe some people have money to burn, but I wanted to
make every day count. It took me 10 years to pay off my college
loans and I would feel foolish if I wasted all of that time and
money "experimenting."
You make it sound as if all people are greedy nasty bastards.
I understand it's sometimes hard to persevere, but when things look
like they are at their worst - they can only get better. Take a break
and you'll feel better.
I remember a once I was at an RPG party and the electric circuit responsible for the lights went kaput. Rather than cancel the party - everybody was enjoying the game - a friend from Engineering college and I disconnected one of the ceiling lamps from the circuit and ran a cable from an electrical socket into it. The RPG game was saved. The guy told me, as the lamp was
This reminds me of a regular subject for conversation that pops up every now and then with aquitances. The subject is the fact I will never get a public retirement pension because by the time I retire, the public retirement funds will be effectively bankrupt.
People usually takes it as a joke. Some guy, one day, told me something that serves as the perfect example of why society is wrecked: he said "Don't worry, what we know is we will all get our retirement pensions."
My experience is lots of people went there because they wanted a degree, but they didn't care which one, hence they were not sure what to study.
StormTrooper wrote to Arelor <=-
My experience is lots of people went there because they wanted a degree, but they didn't care which one, hence they were not sure what to study.
There was a time here, when positions were government funded we had a cadre of essentially professional students. They'd finish a course,
poke around and see what was available and then start another one, sometimes they might have 3-4 incomplete courses, and that was pretty
much all they did their entire working lives. None of it was ever put
to any use whatsoever.
Quoting Arelor to Cougar428 <=-
You make it sound as if all people are greedy nasty bastards.
People are greedy nasty bastards. The only thing you can count on is
they will run you over if it fits their interests. For all the talking about morality we get, people always bends their principles in such a
way that any actions to defend their interests are justified.
Hence my well known BBS motto "People sucks and deserves to die"
Quoting Arelor to Cougar428 <=-
I understand it's sometimes hard to persevere, but when things look
like they are at their worst - they can only get better. Take a break
and you'll feel better.
This reminds me of a regular subject for conversation that pops up
every now and then with aquitances. The subject is the fact I will
never get a public retirement pension because by the time I retire,
the public retirement funds will be effectively bankrupt.
People usually takes it as a joke. Some guy, one day, told me
something that serves as the perfect example of why society is
wrecked: he said "Don't worry, what we know is we will all get our retirement pensions."
Such claim is worrysome in itself because it shows people believes
stuff won't change even if all evidence points at the fact it will.
You can point at the tendencies and strains retirement funds get and
also at the fact absolutely nothing is being done or planed to save
them - in fact, what we know is in 30 years retirement pensions will
allow you to buy a fistful peanuts per month at best. And yet people refuses to openly acknowledge it because the popular thing to do is pretend things will fix themselves.
I think it is soooo much constructive to acknowledge in 30 years retirement funds are gona be deeply fucked up so you can withstand the storm when it hits. Being a prepared pesimist motherfucker beats
optimism.
My point is that when things look bad you have to assume they are bad instead of pretend they aren't.
I read a SF novel where the protagonist has been given an allocation
from his parents' estate, for as long as he is in university. He'd
successfully bounced from major to major for years until he'd finally
taken every course offered, and would have completed one of the degrees
by default...
I don't disagree with you, but sometimes you need to stop worrying
about something which is deeply bothering you in order to relax and
worry about the things that are dear to you.
After finishing high school, students get a 'diploma', not a 'degree' least, where I am, I've never heard of ca high school calling it a "h school degree").
I suppose that does make sense, as the diploma is what you get at the
end of the education, and the degree is what you accomplished while
there.
And, since there's no specialization with high school things, you get
both diplomas and degrees in universities, but only diplomas in high school.
But, yeah, I was just thinking of it as, "you've accomplished this, so
you have a high school degree", but, without going down a rabbit hole,
I'd guess you're completely correct.
Isn't the degree also a confirmation that you've graduated and completed the program? My understanding is that the degree says you've graduated
& completed the program and are thus are qualified for the material covered in the program. Having a diploma to also say you've completed
the program seems redundant to me (and I don't recall seeing a college
in my area issuing dimplomas separately). I have an associates and a bachelor's degree that were issued to me after I finished the college programs but never got a college diploma issued to me.
On 23 Apr 2025 at 09:51a, Nightfox pondered and said...
Re: Re: New to this
By: boraxman to Nightfox on Wed Apr 23 2025 11:56 pm
Got to fix JuiceSSH on my Android. I was saying that University can be a liability, because people learn some strange and extrem political and social view from Uni, that get transferred into th workplace, where they are definately less than welcome.
I feel like that would be a strange thing to be happening. I can't s experienced any political bias in college, but maybe some colleges & universities are doing that for some reason..
Its pretty rife in the major universities in Melbourne and Sydney, particularly Melbourne. More-so student activism that rubs off on
others. They adopt a particular set of values, then seek to exert these in the workplace, or vice-versa, the workplace then modifies its culture and its workings, in order to accomodate their beliefs.
You end up with a situation where the company is geared towards a very specific, very localised worldview.
On 23 Apr 2025 at 05:11p, Adept pondered and said...
This one wasn't cut off, but did get scrambled somehow.
It's _mostly_ fine if you read it backwards.
Further education can be a liability too, as people are tau eht ot
revo yrrac neht yeht hcihw ,sfeileb laicos dna lacitilop eg ,saera emos ni ,thg
A very strange way for an SSH client to behave! To literally insert the same characters, but backwards at the end!
As for politicians keeping prices high for their own personal benefit. They are traitors to their nation, and should be dealt with as such.
How people think this is acceptable, and shouldn't result in severe punishment is beyond me. But hey, thats why we're all going to end up homeless, because we accept this from them.
One of the dramas I saw play out multiple times were committed same-sex
relationships between two women in college. Unfortunately, one of them
was more confident in their sexuality and their partner was
experimenting. As soon as they graduated, got jobs and started
associating with people outside of that environment, they chose to date
men and forget about "that phase".
It happened often enough that there was a term for it - LUG, or Lesbian
Until Graduation. Lots of heartache among my friends.
BY: boraxman (21:1/101)
On Saturday,April 19, 2025 at 10:53 AM, Boraxman (21:1/101) wrote:
My mum is a Boomer, and she said people can just "Scrimp and Save" like she did. I asked her how long it took to pay off the mortgage. We greAs someone who is "older" now (50s) statements like that piss me off.
It is amazing how people 20 years older than I am think the world hasn't changed since 1955. They don't realize, or want to acknowledge, how
many government programs and aid they had in their day, compared to what Gen X and beyond got - which was squat.
This attitude nowadays of "I got mine, and screw you" is prevelant with
so many people of that generation, and others. They feel the younger generation should shoulder all the burden of society and taxes while
they amass even more wealth. I'm very much against that, and believe
that EVERYONE - I don't care your age - should pay in to taxes, etc. I don't support "senior tax freeze" nonsense. Why should young families have to "scrimp" to pay for services you are using while you have more than enough assets to pay for own?
Anyway, I've ranted enough. I just think this issue is even bigger tha most people think it is.
It is... and getting worse .
Meghan Fitzgerald wrote to boraxman <=-
On 15 Apr 2025 at 06:52p, Meghan Fitzgerald pondered and said...
I am new to this FSX. How is everyone?
Meg
Welcome. Obviously not your first time on BBS?
No not my first time. I have been using this one here for many years and now that I am getting close to retirement with more free time I wanted to get back into this. I used FidoNet a LONG time ago and am starting to get back into it. I don't like the way social media today looks and feels. This is what I remember most. Have a great day and thanks for writing back to me. Meg
I don't really like how Social Media works. Toxic, and the interface
is pretty poor too. Unfortunately, that is where the people are, but
its like having to walk into a minefield to talk to people, because everyone else is there. You stand there and say "We shouldn't stand
in a minefield", but everyone stays, because thats where the people
are.
Anyway, I'm here because I like to practice what I preach, and if more people come to better platforms, the better for us.
There's a time and place for everything, and it's called college.
(I think that's from South Park. I don't fully agree with it, as adults should try experimenting, too. Though I guess even I experimented with living outside of the US by going to graduate school, and that stuck better than the US did, judging from the time I've spent in and out of
the US since then.)
I've heard of guys "experimenting" in college too. And for some pepl I think going off on tangents and experimenting in college may actual be a way to find reality. As they say sometimes, you never know unti you try..
I could never understand why people just automatically go to college
with no idea what they want to study. I knew years before I started college. Maybe some people have money to burn, but I wanted to
make every day count. It took me 10 years to pay off my college
loans and I would feel foolish if I wasted all of that time and
money "experimenting."
I wish there were a way to updoot this message.
Re: Re: New to this
By: Gryphon to boraxman on Tue May 06 2025 06:17 am
I wish there were a way to updoot this message.
What is "updoot"?
The platform won't help. If you remember, fidonet is called FIGHT-O-NET, and for good reason. The problem isn't you have to walk through a minefield to talk to people. The people ARE the minefield. Where ever you get people with opinions together (like here) they will bring the mines with them.
Arelor wrote to Gryphon <=-
Well, I think the platform matters because some platforms are fully operated by censors.
See, if I write a Dovenet review about an RPG book and critizise it for pushing political points that are shoehorned into it, some people might
be angry and argue my review is trash. **And that is fine**. Talking
only to people you agree with is boring after a while and you don't get
to learn much.
However, you post the same review on RPGnet and you get banned, they create a thread about why you got banned and how cool it is you got banned. The place is dying for a reason.
Communication systems without global banning authorities are a godsend. They make a total difference. They will never achieve mass appeal again because regular people can't take the heat and will rather have the Ban Police take their freedom in exchange for saving them from imaginary threats, just like in real life. This does not mean we can't use them ourselves.
However, you post the same review on RPGnet and you get banned, they create a thread about why you got banned and how cool it is you got banned. The place is dying for a reason.
Is that a forum or reddit or what? I don't 'hang out' on either, but I
do enjoy RPG's! :-) Having a Christian worldview means my views are not really welcome in the modern RPG space... No, I don't go attacking, but
as you inferred, disagreement means you are evil.
Meghan Fitzgerald wrote to All <=-
I am new to this FSX. How is everyone?
RPGnet is a forum about, you guess it, tabletop Roleplaying Games :-P
Arelor wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-
RPGnet is a forum about, you guess it, tabletop Roleplaying Games :-P
There are lots of traditional style games still made if you don't like modern trends. I don't know what your tolerance towards dark subjects
is (ie. if you are fine with a game having demons and the like) but you can fish for lots of cool stuff in the OSR movement or the NSR (Old
School Renaissance and New School Renaissance, respectively).
If you want something more traditional there is the Pendragon game, designed to roleplay the Arthuric Legend. This game is usualy bought
with the Great Pendragon Campaign in order to play the whole story of
King Arthur from start to finish.
On 05 May 2025 at 12:20p, Nightfox pondered and said...
Re: Re: New to this
By: Gryphon to boraxman on Tue May 06 2025 06:17 am
I wish there were a way to updoot this message.
What is "updoot"?
It's slang for a reddit-style upvote.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
The problem is the PEOPLE. Real estate owners see their holdings as
sacrosanct and always on the rise. Building affordable housing could
lower your resale value. Those same people lobby for hurdles to
affordable housing in government.
In many places, there's available rentals - but the inflated real
estate market has landlords and home owners alike is keeping prices
high.
be angry and argue my review is trash. **And that is fine**. Talking only to people you agree with is boring after a while and you don't ge
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking am opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
Bob Worm wrote to Alonzo <=-
Re: Re: New to this
By: Alonzo to Jimmy Anderson on Tue May 13 2025 05:34:52
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking am opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
That sounds cool and all but have you ever tried just shouting over everyone else's opinions and calling them mean names if they still
don't agree with you?
I am joking, of course... but these days it's hard to tell.
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.
Re: Re: New to this
By: boraxman to Bob Worm on Wed May 14 2025 10:19 am
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.
Sometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid;
that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with being that way, rather than being afraid of it.
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking am opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
It's _mostly_ fine if you read it backwards.
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
Of course not. The point of the terms is just to present an air of moral supremacy. They're not meant to be accurate, just manipulative.
Sorry, tapped wrong place on this phone
Case of fat finger? :)
ST
--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108)
Thank you.I am new to this FSX. How is everyone?
Meg
The horrors persist, but so do I.
Welcome to the net!
Re: Re: New to this
By: boraxman to Nightfox on Wed May 14 2025 21:59:47
Of course not. The point of the terms is just to present an air of mor supremacy. They're not meant to be accurate, just manipulative.
Errr.... every single time?
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.Sometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid;
that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with being that way, rather than being afraid of it.
i agree phobic just means fear of
there is a term for hatred
---misia
like transmisias are people i can never like!
I've also heard of the term "misophonia", which is a condition some people have where some noises can trigger feelings of irritation, anger, anxiety, etc.. Often it could be noises like people popping gum, chewing food with their mouth open, or sometimes other random noises.
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstances.Sometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid; that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with being that way, rather than being afraid of it.
i agree phobic just means fear of
there is a term for hatred
---misia
like transmisias are people i can never like!
I've also heard of the term "misophonia", which is a condition some people
have where some noises can trigger feelings of irritation, anger, anxiety,
etc.. Often it could be noises like people popping gum, chewing food with
their mouth open, or sometimes other random noises.
I started to write a joke remark about how all of those noises are irritating so maybe I have misophonia... Then I thought about how the wife regularly comments that I'm "funny about noise" so maybe there's something to that?
Just shouting "---phobic" does the trick is most circumstancesSometimes I think "--phobic" terminology isn't really accurate. If someone is "homophobic", for instance, I don't think they're afraid that term seems to be used for people who generally disagree with b that way, rather than being afraid of it.
i agree phobic just means fear of
there is a term for hatred
---misia
like transmisias are people i can never like!
I suspect they used -phobia because people who have a strong dislike for things often do so out of fear (i.e. spiders or snakes). I still believe there are a lot of people who have -phobias towards certain groups of people but, yes, these days it is also very obvious that some people are just hateful.
Alonzo wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-ge
be angry and argue my review is trash. **And that is fine**. Talking only to people you agree with is boring after a while and you don't
When I was a kid, my friends and I would do something to
keep from being too bored - We would have debates. One
of us would take one side of the arguement and another
kid would take the other (even if we totally disagreed
with it).
Try that sometime. It really opens up your mind. After
taking an opinion you didn't agree with at all and
trying to defend it, we would sometimes go "Aha"
and change our actual beliefs.
Bob Worm wrote to Nightfox <=-
When I'm under the weather I really can't stand loud noise and get
quite cranky. My mother in law - who is great, by the way - speaks so loudly that I sometimes have to leave the room, and that's often the
first warning that I'm coming down with something :(
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