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    From Andrew Squires@1:3634/60 to All on Thu May 1 08:46:49 2025
    SUBJECT: UFO Cover-Up Live Transcript FILE: UFO138

    PART 1

    A transcript with [notes] of the second hour of the program.


    Robert Pozzuoli Videotape -----------------------------------------------------------------
    June 24, 1984 videotaped a UFO over Brewster, NY
    (Westchester-Putnam county). He is vice president of a major
    electronics firm in NYC. The videotape shows a disclike object
    with a string of 6 bright lights around it moving across the sky.
    It then moved behind a pine tree and was lost to sight for 3 sec.
    As it emerged from behind the tree, the object was different. "We
    now saw a string of multicolored lights in the shape of a disc with
    a red light flashing behind it. The lights appeared to be rotating.
    Then they went behind some houses low on the horizon and vanished."
    This UFO was also seen over the Indian Point Nuclear Reactor at
    Buchanan, NY, just south of Peekskill.

    [These events are discussed (with pictures and drawings) in Night
    Siege, The Hudson Valley UFO Sightings by Dr. J. Allen Hynek and
    Philip Imbrogno with Bob Pratt. A man identifying himself as an
    NSC agent tried to obtain the tape. He was told that the tape
    would not be turned over to him or any organization until
    investigators were assured of complete cooperation and exchange of
    information in return. "You know, Phil," he said, "the government
    has done away with people for a lot less." The October TV show
    evidently used some footage from this videotape. You could see the
    circle of lights and blinking rear one, but the circle did not seem
    to be rotating in the tape segment shown. See CLOSE ENCOUNTER ON
    I84 by P. Imbrogno in the December 1988 issue of Oddysey on-line
    magazine available on Paranet Alpha (602) 837-0062; 2400 8 N 1
    Also see ABDUCTIONS IN THE HUDSON VALLEY by P. Imbrogno in the Nov
    1988 (Vol1N3) issue of UFO UNIVERSE published by Condor Books, Inc.
    351 W. 54 St, New York, NY 10019]


    Sep 23, 1980 UFO Escorted by 23 Helicopters -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Betty Cash reported that it was a very cold night in the piney
    woods of E. Texas. "Vicki and I and her grandson were coming back
    from playing Bingo. Suddenly, little Colby noticed a bright light
    in the sky above the pine trees. A tremendous amount of heat was
    coming from this diamond shaped thing. Fire was coming out of the
    bottom of it. When it moved, it made a "swishing" sound and there
    was a beeping the entire time, that I still hear in my mind at
    night." Vicki said, "All three of us got out of the car, then
    Vicky & Colby got back in. Betty continued, "I just stood there
    terrifed for about ten minutes. The object lit up the
    surrounding pine woods like it was daylight. I was burning, my
    skin was burning. The craft hovered over me about 20 minutes.
    Fire was coming out of it like a blowtorch. Then it lifted up and
    flew over the trees."

    Vicki said, "That was when the helicopters came out. (Colby
    counted 23 helicopters which they later identified as CH47 Chinok
    military helicopters) The roar was like a tornado."

    Vicki said, "When we got home, I washed Colby off and put him to
    bed. When water touched his skin, he cried out like he had been
    burned, as if he had been out in the sun too long." Betty Cash was
    too sick to go to work the next day. Betty continued, "My eyes
    swelled closed, welts appeared on my face and head. I thought I
    was going to die. Vicki came and took me to the ER of the hospital.
    They treated me like a burn patient. Over the next few days, I
    lost big patches of skin on my face and about half my hair fell
    out. They kept me in the hospital for over a month with no
    improvement." Photographs were shown of her arm. She now has
    cancer and had cancer surgery in Mar 1983 but the doctors couldn't
    say whether they got it all.

    A government intelligence agent (FALCON) told the TV journalists
    that the craft observed was an alien craft piloted by military
    aircraft pilots. Although they had been trained and were somewhat
    familiar with the craft, they found that it would not respond to
    certain controls and radioed that they believed it was going to
    crash. Standard military procedure regarding crashed aircraft is
    to deploy search and rescue helicopters. These were following the
    craft but it did not crash. (Project SNOWBIRD)
    End of part 1


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  • From Arlan Levitan@1:3634/60 to All on Fri May 2 06:32:24 2025
    SUBJECT: UFO Cover-Up Live Transcript FILE: UFO139

    PART 2

    Videotape of Hypnosis Sessions With Three UFO Abductees -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Mary Osnatto: Graphic artist in NYC. Al Hassem: Works the 4pm to
    midnight shift for the telephone co. Lisa Salviano of Lake
    Hiawatha, NJ is 24 yrs old and pregnant with her first child. She
    is a secretary in NJ.

    The abductees reported small, ugly aliens with large gray heads and
    big, black, slanted eyes, etc. who conducted medical procedures.
    Afterward psychologist Dr. Reba Laibow was interviewed along with
    Budd Hopkins author of Missing Time and Intruders.

    Dr. Rima E. Laibow: Skeptics say abduction reports are the result
    of overly rich fantasy lives. If that were the case, the reports
    would be as diverse as peoples dreams. Instead, we find striking
    similarities in accounts from all kinds of people, from all walks
    of life. Post traumatic stress disorder does not occur unless
    there has been external trauma like that which some Vietnam
    veterans and assault or rape victims experience. But many abductees
    show the serious and disabling affects of helplessness and
    violation. With proper treatment, these symptoms can be relieved.

    Budd Hopkins: In 25% of the abduction cases, there is no memory
    loss at all. What makes the abduction reports believable is the
    commonalty - the cluster of similar recollections in cases from all
    over the world. They notice a period of "missing time" which they
    cannot explain, there is a lot of fear, terror - sometimes about a
    remembered place. There are strange lights they describe in a
    similar way. The descriptions of the craft, its interior and
    occupants are described in extraordinarily similar ways. They also
    describe the medical procedures that occur in very much the same
    way. The sad thing is that the abductors are not interested in
    communicating with our minds but in the physical state of our bodies.


    July 1947 Crashed UFO With Dead Aliens Recovered in Roswell
    New Mexico
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Bill Moore, co-author of The Roswell Incident and physicist
    Stanton Friedman were interviewed. Personal testimony from about
    100 people have been obtained. One of the most important was Bill
    Brazel whose father managed the land where the incident took place.
    Apparently, the UFO got caught in a bad storm. The next day,
    Brazels father went out to check for property damage and found the
    wreckage of a strange craft that fanned out for about half a mile.
    About two mi. from the site, dead alien bodies were found. "We got
    reports that they appeared to be small, humanoid bodies with large,
    hairless heads, wearing one piece, seamless gray clothing. The Air
    force recovered the bodies and took them away for autopsy. We can
    prove that the story was covered up at the highest level and given
    a security classification above top secret."

    One of the first people on the scene to investigate was Major Jesse
    Marcel. Lets meet his son Dr. Jesse Marcel who was 12 years old at
    the time. "My father came home with his car loaded with debris and
    he, my mother and I sorted through the stuff. There was a
    foil-like sheathing alloy. It was metallic and looked like the skin
    of an aircraft. Also there was an "I" beam about 1 «' in length, «"
    across. The inner surface had hieroglyphics or Egyptian-like symbols
    on it. I held the material in my hand. It was not from this earth
    or this universe. That what I think. We are not alone." The
    debris was taken from the house to Carswell AFB and never seen again.
    End of part 2


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  • From Ty Holder@1:3634/60 to All on Sat May 3 07:16:56 2025
    SUBJECT: UFO Cover-Up Live Transcript FILE: UFO140

    PART 3

    Film of UFO Landing at Holloman AFB ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Robert Emenegger, author & filmaker and Paul Shartle, former
    security officer and chief of requirements for the audiovisual
    program at Norton AFB were interviewed. Robert said that in 1973,
    while President of Gray Advertising, "I took time out to go to
    Norton AFB and explore subjects for TV specials relating to the
    defense dept. While there, Paul told us about a film of alien craft
    landing at Hollomon AFB three years earlier. I saw footage of 3
    disk shaped craft. One of them landed and two went away. It
    appeared to be in trouble because it oscillated all the way down to
    the ground. However, it landed on 3 pods. A sliding door opened,
    a ramp was extended and out came three aliens. They were human
    sized, with odd gray complexions and a pronounced nose. They wore
    tight fitting jump suits and a thin head dress that appeared to be
    a communication device. In their hands, I was told, they held a
    translator."

    Paul indicated that the Air Force said it was theatrical footage
    purchased to make a training film. He said that he didn't think
    that was true because the film looked too real and he had no record
    of it even though it was his job to keep accurate records for all
    audio-visual purchases. It was just fortunate that they were
    filming an acceleration test that day.


    Revelations Concerning MJ-12 and 3 Aliens as Guests of the US
    Government
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    William Moore & Jaimie Shandara reported that the Truman document
    establishing MJ-12 and Eyes Only document to president elect
    Eisenhower were mailed to Jaimie. Afterward picture postcards
    mailed from New Zealand were received containing clues as to where
    to look further. These led to an FOI request from the National
    Repository in Sutland Maryland where they got the
    Cuttler-Twining document.

    One of their informants in the intelligence community (FALCON) told
    them further about MJ-12. It was a policy making group on
    extraterrestrial activities, contacts and UFO activities
    headquartered at the Naval Observatory in Washington, DC. They
    make policies, get presidential approval and implement these
    policies. Part of their job was scientific advancement, but mostly
    it was to keep track of data coming in on UFO's. The US Navy has
    field responsibility relating to MJ-12 policies. All information
    gathered in the field is transmitted to the Navy for analysis.

    While attempting to validate MJ-12, the circle of intelligence
    contacts coming foreward grew to nine government agents who were
    in secret, need-to-know positions. Falcons position gives him
    access to the MJ-12 infrastructure. The President, Vice-President,
    Jt. Chiefs of Staff, the White House Intelligence Unit, and other
    select individuals are kept informed.



    PRESIDENT
    |
    NSC ------ MJ-12
    |
    NIA ---- Acquarius --- CIA
    |
    DIA
    |
    -----------------------------------
    | | | |
    Parapsychology DARPA DCS Area 51
    Research Unit | (Dreamland)
    |
    |
    ----------------
    | | |
    ARMY ONI AFIS



    DARPA: Defense Advanced Rsc. Proj. Agency - The Pentagons chief
    supporter of breakthrough computer research.
    End of part 3


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  • From Beth Martin@1:3634/60 to All on Sun May 4 07:15:01 2025
    SUBJECT: UFO Cover-Up Live Transcript FILE: UFO141

    PART 4

    FALCON: This book, or its called "THE BIBLE" within the MJ-12
    community contains historically everything that has occurred in
    the Truman era up through the three aliens being guests of the US
    government, technical data gathered from the aliens, medical
    history and autopsy data gathered from dead aliens found in the
    desert, social structures and their information pertaining to the
    universe.

    Presently as of 1988, there is one ET. He is a guest of the US
    government and has remained hidden from public view. The
    "YELLOW BOOK" is a book that was exlusively written by the 2nd
    alien. The book relates to the aliens planet, solar system, suns,
    culture and societal make-up on the planet, social structures of
    the aliens and the aliens life among earthlings.

    They have and, I think it is an octagon shaped crystal which when
    held in the aliens hand and viewed by another person, displays
    pictures which can be of the aliens home planet or of the earth
    many thousands of years ago.

    They come from the Zeta Reticuli star group.

    CONDOR: An agreement signed between ET's & the US government -
    "We won't disclose your existence if you don't interfere in our
    society and operate from a designated base in the US." Its in the
    state of Nevada in an area called Area 51 or Dreamland.

    FALCON: The ET's have complete control of this base. It is my
    understanding that three different aliens of the same species
    have resided in the US from 1948 or 49 to the present day. The
    first was captured in the N. Mexican desert after its craft crashed.
    The alien was named EBE (Extraterrestrial Biological Entity) by the
    Government and was kept in captivity for three years. We learned a
    great deal of information about the aliens race, culture and
    spacecraft. The second alien was part of an exchange program. The
    third alien was also part of an exchange program and has been a
    guest of the US government since 1982.

    The creatures are about 3'4" - 3'8" tall. They have extremely
    large eyes, almost insect style. They have two different inner
    lids possibly because their days are almost twice as bright as ours.
    Two openings where our nose would be. A small mouth, no teeth and
    hard gums like ours.

    Their internal organs are quite simple. One organ does the job of
    our heart and lungs. Their digestive system is really simple.
    Their skin is very elastic but hard, probably hardening from their
    sun. Their brain is more complex than ours and has several
    different lobes than ours have. Their eyes are controlled by tissue
    in front of their brains rather than the back as ours is. Their
    hearing is better than ours, almost better than a dog. They have
    males and females. Their kidney and bladder is one organ. There
    is another organ our scientists think is for waste elimination.
    They have 4 fingers with no thumb and their feet are small &
    web-like with 4 toes.

    They have a life span of 350 - 400 earth years and it is my
    understanding that they have an IQ of over 200.

    They have a religion, but its a universal religion. They believe in
    the universe as a supreme being. They enjoy all types of music
    especially ancient Tibetan style music. They like vegetables and
    their favorite snack is strawberry icecream.
    End


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