Hej Maurice!

I had to upgrade 'trans' to make this work. As of this post it is 0.9.7.1-release.

Works for me although the msg header *NEEDS* a complete overhaul in order to properly count characters rather than bytes. Speaking for myself I see little to nothing in current standards worth salvaging.

Oh well, not my call thank goodness.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 03:54:58 GMT, Maurice Kinal -> Maurice Kinal wrote:

I had to upgrade 'trans' to make this work.  As of this post it is
0.9.7.1-release.

Works for me although the msg header *NEEDS* a complete overhaul in order to properly count characters rather than bytes.  Speaking for myself I see
little to nothing in current standards worth salvaging.

Oh well, not my call thank goodness.

Would you like another nomination to the FTSC so that everyone shuts down any attempt for you to make things better for today's standards again? :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nicholas!

Would you like another nomination to the FTSC so that everyone
shuts down any attempt for you to make things better for today's
standards again? :)

I am not convinced it will make a difference but if nominated I would accept and continue to advocate for proper change(s). If not then I'll continue along the path I've been on since forever, no nomination required. :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 01:03:50 +0300, Aug -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

I got the sarcasm. But then I was just wondering in general what they
have actually done. Even fixing the spelling mistakes and grammatical errors and clarifying some of the tech lingo seems ripe for avoidance.

Some just like the way the hat looks, it seems. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Some just like the way the hat looks, it seems. :)

I still think there should badges. :-)

Perhaps a full uniform with boots is required.
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On 25 Feb. 2024 18:47, you wrote to August:

Perhaps a full uniform with boots is required.

Maybe next election. Besides boots in my size are really hard to find.

Perhaps they can make an exception and let you wear open-toe boots or just sandals! ..as long as the color matches the official standard!!! :D
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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 01:17:42 GMT
"Maurice Kinal -> Serak the Preparer" <2989@7001.153.1> wrote:

<Esc>:read !trans -b -no-ansi -t he "To pronounce it correctly, I would have to pull out your tongue." | sed 's/^ *//'
.ךלש ןושלה תא ףולשל ךרטצא ,ןוכנ הז תא
אטבל ידכ

Note that the above is Hebrew ... or should be ... and I took the
liberty of stripping out the leading spaces since a 4k terminal results

The hebrew letters appear to be fine under my nntp read Sylpheed.

👍 +1

However, an nntp reader is outside the scope of what fidonet is.

As shown the Hebrew Subject line is exactly 46 utf-8 characters which *should* fit into a FTN Subject which can be up to 71 characters.
However a byte count yeilds 82 bytes which the typical FTN abandonware will consider too long and chop off the last (actually first since
Hebrew is read right to left) 12 bytes. Note I say bytes and not characters since DOS-think types cannot count straight, especially when they treat stings as numbers. Very sad.

Solution: FTS should limit utf-8 chars only to the message body only.

So much for utf-8 and FTS-5003. As is that document is sadly lacking
wrt utf-8 charcters and probably should have it's own documentation in order to escape crippleware developers.

I would tend to agree.

Anyhow.. it seems that utf-8 was "approved" without the evidence of ample usage of utf-8.

Also there is no such thing as LATIN-1. It is the end result of some Gatesian nightmare you can never wake up from.

No comment.

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Hey August!

Are you familiar with the UTF-8 echo?

Yes I was aware of it.

Perhaps it was set up to help promote utf-8 inclusion and use.

That sounds reasonable.

Life is good,
Maurice

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