• Re: The Epstein case

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jul 20 11:30:13 2025
    On 19 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I used to think that way too, but the majority of America isn't
    interested in Trump's "crimes." I think I read that now he wants the
    files released just to shut people up, but then they'll just find something else to whine about.


    We'll see what happens. I wrote @RonL a message... I think the midterms will be spectacular... The Dems will have to defend all these allegations over the next few years... Open border, Auto-Pen, Cognitive Decline and now Barry, Susan Rice and the Intel Team manufacturing Intel in an attempt to over-through the Trump Administration.


    I despise the things that Barry has done, but I love Tulsi's updates. I love how she used the word "treasonous" at least twice in 1 paragraph. Treason is a very punishable offense, and I don't think that probation will be an option ;)


    Get your popcorn...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 20 11:42:30 2025
    Some of the clients might be picked up by the other prosecutions. I'm willing to bet that most on Epstein Island did not only do the one crime.

    The only thing that people don't get is closure. But I'm willing to forego that to destroy the Deep State and Elitists so that Epstein is never allowed to happen again.

    Yea it's fine with me too. Whatever happened on Epstein's island isn't tangible; I can't see, hear, or smell anything pertaining to it.

    But what IS tangible is the Trump-Russia hoax, the importation of millions of undocumented people, and the receipts for Build Back Better. Let's fry those fish.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jul 20 11:44:01 2025
    On 20 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Right. "Guilt by association" is a Leftie thing. We want no part of that.


    I want justice that's all. The young lady who was suicided... She was the one who complained About Price Andrew. She recalls that he sweated like a PIG, she recalls how disgusting it was.

    Prince Andrew responded to that with... I have a medical condition that doesn't allow me to sweat... He didn't say... I didn't do it... He said that he doesn't sweat.

    I would love to see justice in this case, for the young girls that had to endure these creeps...

    Our world is messed up...


    I have my doubts, but I remain hopeful.

    But Osama is still just a figurehead. He's too stupid to actually plan anything.


    I'm not sure... Not saying he's smart... There is a video out there that shows Barry talking on this exact topic.

    He said that all you have to do is overwhelm the public with lies and they won't be able to figure out the truth.

    You have Barry and the Intel Community in conjunction with the "Free Press" investigating nonexistent crimes and the media perpetuating these lies.

    There is a cancer in society and it comes from the political left.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jul 21 08:07:00 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    What I am worried about is manufactured "evidence".

    Great topic!!!

    What do you think about the information Tulsi brought forward about
    Barry and the Intel Agencies did back in 2016 with the Russia Hoax??

    Nothing we didn't already know. We just didn't have hard evidence.

    But the real question still is: Will people be held responsible?

    Some people are saying Osama has immunity, but since "interfering with an election" is not an official duty of the President, I don't think that will hold up.

    But trust in our judiciary is at an all time low, for good reasons.

    Midterms looking good. The Democrats will be fighting many fronts.
    The Auto-Pen stuff... Joe Biden's Cognitive decline cover up... And
    this new stuff that implicates Barry and even Susan Rice.

    Unless there is massive cheating, I can't see the Dems getting wins in the midterms.

    But the Election Fraud machines are still alive and well in Michigan and Commieforna (and probably other places too).


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jul 21 08:07:00 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Yea it's fine with me too. Whatever happened on Epstein's island isn't tangible; I can't see, hear, or smell anything pertaining to it.

    Because the information about it is suppressed like the D-Day plans, with lots of false trails leading away.

    But Rand Paul pointed out that we **do** have some documentation:
    Epstein's bank account records. $1 billion in a year from many people. There's a nice list of "who should we investigate?"

    But what IS tangible is the Trump-Russia hoax, the importation of
    millions of undocumented people, and the receipts for Build Back
    Better. Let's fry those fish.

    Bureaucracy is really good at leaving a paper trail, that's for sure.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 21 08:37:07 2025
    But Rand Paul pointed out that we **do** have some documentation: Epstein's bank account records. $1 billion in a year from many people. There's a nice list of "who should we investigate?"

    It sounds kinda like a witch-hunt to me. But if they can prosecute people with solid evidence, then ok.

    But what IS tangible is the Trump-Russia hoax, the importation of millions of undocumented people, and the receipts for Build Back Better. Let's fry those fish.

    Bureaucracy is really good at leaving a paper trail, that's for sure.

    Having James Comey's daughter do the investigations is bad for the paper trail though.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jul 21 09:37:16 2025
    On 21 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Nothing we didn't already know. We just didn't have hard evidence.

    But the real question still is: Will people be held responsible?

    Some people are saying Osama has immunity, but since "interfering with an election" is not an official duty of the President, I don't think that will hold up.

    But trust in our judiciary is at an all time low, for good reasons.


    DC finds ways to hide their mistakes... Hillary was implicated as well... People will die.

    I cannot wait to hear the Democrats go on about not being able to arrest a president.

    I think the Republicans should use the Democrat play book and flood the system with Truth and Facts instead of lies and fabrications.

    They need to grind the shit out of this until the midterms are over.

    We need MEMES like the Coldplay Kiss Cam got with the poor couple who just wanted to have an affair... This needs to take a life of its own.


    Unless there is massive cheating, I can't see the Dems getting wins in
    the midterms.

    But the Election Fraud machines are still alive and well in Michigan and Commieforna (and probably other places too).


    I think everyone is more aware of the cheating. I think the scandal is too big. I think some will be primaried and others might go to jail... Adam Schiff has too many issues and it is my hope he'll face some jail time.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 22 07:20:58 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But Rand Paul pointed out that we **do** have some documentation: Epstein's bank account records. $1 billion in a year from many people. There's a nice list of "who should we investigate?"

    It sounds kinda like a witch-hunt to me. But if they can prosecute
    people with solid evidence, then ok.

    But knowing where to look for evidence is the first step to finding it.

    The bank account records aren't proof. But they are a research vector to find proof.

    I mean, if the gov't were to look at my bank accounts and find that I made a $1 million transfer to someone under investigation already, they'd be right to ask me:
    1. Where did I get the $1 million in the first place.
    2. Why did I send it to the other person.

    A transaction of that amount isn't "helping out a buddy down on his luck"

    Bureaucracy is really good at leaving a paper trail, that's for sure.

    Having James Comey's daughter do the investigations is bad for the
    paper trail though.

    But she's been fired. So she shouldn't be involved.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Jul 22 07:20:58 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    DC finds ways to hide their mistakes... Hillary was implicated as
    well... People will die.

    Speaking of that....

    I just heard a rumor that the person who "validated" Osama's fake birth certificate mysteriously died in a plane crash. He was the only victim.

    I cannot wait to hear the Democrats go on about not being able to
    arrest a president.

    If he wasn't a citizen, he couldn't have been the President, and any protctions should be null-and-void.

    But even so, the "immunity" clause applies to only official actions in office. I don't believe that crimes under our laws can be "official actions", but it will be interesting to see that play out in court.

    I think the Republicans should use the Democrat play book and flood the system with Truth and Facts instead of lies and fabrications.

    That will be much easier when the Propaganda Ministry, er... Media is bankrupt.

    They need to grind the shit out of this until the midterms are over.

    I think they are. Operation Let-Them-Speak is moving along very nice.

    I think everyone is more aware of the cheating. I think the scandal is too big. I think some will be primaried and others might go to jail... Adam Schiff has too many issues and it is my hope he'll face some jail time.

    I think many people are hoping for this.

    We are tired of these people committing crimes and walking away free.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jul 22 09:36:30 2025
    On 22 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Speaking of that....

    I just heard a rumor that the person who "validated" Osama's fake birth certificate mysteriously died in a plane crash. He was the only victim.


    Funny AF... I was listening to a lawyer talking today, I usually listen to him about 2nd amendment stuff, but he did opine on this exact topic.

    He did say that Obama could escape some of these charges by saying his Birth Certificate from Hawaii was fake. Obama is still a citizen just not a
    "Naturally Born" Citizen.

    -= From what I know on a personal side =-

    I have a daughter who born after I became a citizen and she was not born in the US. When she was born I applied for a "Consular Report of Birth Abroad" AKA CRBA.

    This looks like a birth certificate... It's the document that says she's a citizen and its the one we use to get her passports and whatnot.

    I'm not sure why Barry didn't have a CRBA for his birth in Kenya... If his mother was a US citizen, all you need is 1 US parent, and his daddy was a deadbeat father from Kenya.

    If this is the case... Like my daughter who isn't a "Naturally Born Citizen" based on the Constitution's meaning. My daughter, though a US citizen, cannot be president... I would argue that Barry could not be one either.

    I often wondered why he didn't have this document, CRBA, and came to the conclusion that he wasn't even slightly a US citizen... at all...


    If he wasn't a citizen, he couldn't have been the President, and any protctions should be null-and-void.

    But even so, the "immunity" clause applies to only official actions in office. I don't believe that crimes under our laws can be "official actions", but it will be interesting to see that play out in court.


    There was a great example of this during the Obama Administration... Do you recall the time that Obama sent a drone to kill a US citizen in Yemen... He was a radical Muslim, the head of this group. And Obama had him killed.

    No Due Process, just his signature, and he was killed.

    This would have been a great argument to hear... Can a president kill a US citizen without due process?? There are arguments to support this... I'm just a President doing Presidential things.

    I am not saying these are valid, but rather there is room here to make them.

    If Barry wanted to start robbing banks while he was the President immunity would not be given to him... It's like a Judge has a similar immunity, while conducting official business, is not covered if you sneak an Illegal Alien out the back door to escape being arrested by ICE.

    Barry had an "Argument" with killing a citizen without giving him his due process whereas he does not have this argument when he was conspiring to circumvent the will of the people with this treasonous conspiracy.


    That will be much easier when the Propaganda Ministry, er... Media is bankrupt.


    It's looking like that might happen soon enough.


    I think they are. Operation Let-Them-Speak is moving along very nice.


    That, and let the Republicans hold hearing and the DOJ work their magic with Facts and Truth.


    I think many people are hoping for this.

    We are tired of these people committing crimes and walking away free.


    Schiff and Nancy are implicated as well.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jul 23 07:16:57 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    He did say that Obama could escape some of these charges by saying his Birth Certificate from Hawaii was fake. Obama is still a citizen just
    not a "Naturally Born" Citizen.

    But that would open him, and others, to other charges.

    I'm not sure why Barry didn't have a CRBA for his birth in Kenya... If
    his mother was a US citizen, all you need is 1 US parent, and his daddy was a deadbeat father from Kenya.

    Because they didn't think about it at the time and probably didn't know it existed.

    Remember, we are talking about people who believe that they are above the law, so they don't bother finding these things out believing that they will simply get a "pass" later.

    There was a great example of this during the Obama Administration... Do you recall the time that Obama sent a drone to kill a US citizen in Yemen... He was a radical Muslim, the head of this group. And Obama
    had him killed.

    But I think a good argument can be made that such action was an "official duty" of the office (i.e. taking out a terrorist leader).

    No Due Process, just his signature, and he was killed.

    So does that mean that the Lefties are going to protest Osama now? Ya, I didn't think so.

    I am not saying these are valid, but rather there is room here to make them.

    I don't think that the immunity clause has really gotten its "day in court" so there's a lot of questions over how far it goes.

    But we haven't had Presidents who thought that they were that far above the law before either.

    That, and let the Republicans hold hearing and the DOJ work their magic with Facts and Truth.

    I think the plan is to reduce the "scope of attack" here. If the midterms knock out a bunch of socialist patsies, that just makes things easier.

    And they can spend the next year or so building up cases and maybe make some of these swamp creatures go to ground - where they can't do anymore harm, or have less protections.

    Schiff and Nancy are implicated as well.

    The charges, and evidence, are piling up on them it seems.


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