• Re: Gardens

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 11 07:05:28 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    And thus is born "fusion" cuisine. Some of which is very nice. But
    some dishes should be "left as found". I have things in every cuisine

    I think most things are better in their original than in a fusion.
    Fusion doesn't always take the best of all contributions and make something better; sometimes it ends up much worse than any of its components.

    As I said above "Some of which is very nice." And, of course, there
    are some dishes which could gag a maggot out of a garbage can.

    Steve would count anything made with bittermelon in that category.
    Others would include durian. I like them both, in small amounts--can
    enjoy more melon than durian tho. (G)

    AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
    as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.

    8<----- ||||| ----->8

    Yes, but this Diana was born when the future princess was only 8 years
    old and hardly anybody knew her. Besides, the kitten was cuter. (G)

    I thought Ms. Spencer was quite attractive despite her blonde hair.

    That's your opinion. Besides, what's wrong with being blonde? I was for
    my childhood/early adulthood. It turned more brown over the years tho.

    Sorry, platinum blondes/bottle blondes give the dishwater blondes a bad
    name by association. Bv)= My favourite blonde has to be Dolly Parton.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Our cats brought home mice, shrews, and the occaisional bird, even
    fewer rabbits. More often than not, we would see a few remains and know that the hunter had found prey.

    We had a shop cat at the satellite store. Callie was brought in when
    one of the installers got her, barely weaned, from a clinet. Her
    mother cat hadn't had time to teach her to hunt and eat her prey. She would nab a mouse and play with it until its little heart gave out.
    Then ignore the thing. Once I put one of her victims in her food dish hoping she'd get the idea that it was food. Ms. Calico scooped the
    mouse onto the floor and started crunching her kibble.

    All depends on how they're raised in the first couple of months. I
    can't recall our momma cats teaching their young how to hunt; kittens generally found homes around 8-10 weeks old. By then they knew how to
    eat & drink from dishes.

    Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat would
    have schooled her in foraging for her food.

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    Title: Dolly Parton's "Stone Soup"
    Categories: Poultry, Potatoes, Vegetables, Pork
    Yield: 8 servings

    2 qt Chicken broth
    1 lb Russet potatoes; scrubbed,
    - peeled, diced
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes
    1 sm Head cabbage; coarse
    - chopped
    1 lb Turnips; peeled, diced
    2 lg Carrots; peeled. diced
    1 sm Onion; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1 Very clean stone
    Salt & pepper

    Pour the chicken broth into a large stockpot. Add in the
    diced potatoes, diced tomatoes and their liquid, chopped
    cabbage, diced turnips, diced carrot, diced onions,
    minced garlic and ham hock.

    Bring the soup to a boil over medium-high heat. Reduce
    the heat to low and simmer it uncovered for about 2
    hours. Stir the soup occasionally during simmering.

    Scoop the ham hock from the soup and place it on a
    cutting board. Remove the skin and discard. Remove the
    meat and use a sharp knife to dice it. Add the diced
    meat back into the soup, discarding the bone or giving
    it to the dog.

    Taste the soup; it will have some saltiness from the
    stock and ham hock, but you can add more if it needs
    some, along with black pepper to taste. Remove the stone
    from the soup. (You can wash the stone and save it for
    the next batch.) Serve the soup while it's hot. Serve
    your soup along with this pecan chicken salad.

    Dolly Parton, Dollywood, Tennessee

    Makes: 6 - 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 11 13:32:18 2025
    Hi Dave,

    As I said above "Some of which is very nice." And, of course, there
    are some dishes which could gag a maggot out of a garbage can.

    Steve would count anything made with bittermelon in that category.
    Others would include durian. I like them both, in small amounts--can
    enjoy more melon than durian tho. (G)

    AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
    as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.

    Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in
    Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the
    dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.

    8<----- ||||| ----->8

    I thought Ms. Spencer was quite attractive despite her blonde hair.

    That's your opinion. Besides, what's wrong with being blonde? I was for
    my childhood/early adulthood. It turned more brown over the years tho.

    Sorry, platinum blondes/bottle blondes give the dishwater blondes a
    bad name by association. Bv)= My favourite blonde has to be Dolly Parton.

    She is a trip! But, she's very generous--gave I don't know how many
    millions of dollars to her employees a few years ago when wildfires took
    out a lot of their houses. Also, last year, gave quite a bit toward
    Helene relief in both NC and TN.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Then ignore the thing. Once I put one of her victims in her food dish hoping she'd get the idea that it was food. Ms. Calico scooped the
    mouse onto the floor and started crunching her kibble.

    All depends on how they're raised in the first couple of months. I
    can't recall our momma cats teaching their young how to hunt; kittens generally found homes around 8-10 weeks old. By then they knew how to
    eat & drink from dishes.

    Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
    would have schooled her in foraging for her food.

    But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 13 06:02:54 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    As I said above "Some of which is very nice." And, of course, there
    are some dishes which could gag a maggot out of a garbage can.

    Steve would count anything made with bittermelon in that category.
    Others would include durian. I like them both, in small amounts--can
    enjoy more melon than durian tho. (G)

    AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
    as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.

    Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.

    That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down to
    Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.

    8<----- ||||| ----->8

    I thought Ms. Spencer was quite attractive despite her blonde hair.

    That's your opinion. Besides, what's wrong with being blonde? I was for
    my childhood/early adulthood. It turned more brown over the years tho.

    Sorry, platinum blondes/bottle blondes give the dishwater blondes a
    bad name by association. Bv)= My favourite blonde has to be Dolly Parton.

    She is a trip! But, she's very generous--gave I don't know how many millions of dollars to her employees a few years ago when wildfires
    took out a lot of their houses. Also, last year, gave quite a bit
    toward Helene relief in both NC and TN.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Then ignore the thing. Once I put one of her victims in her food dish hoping she'd get the idea that it was food. Ms. Calico scooped the
    mouse onto the floor and started crunching her kibble.

    All depends on how they're raised in the first couple of months. I
    can't recall our momma cats teaching their young how to hunt; kittens generally found homes around 8-10 weeks old. By then they knew how to
    eat & drink from dishes.

    Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
    would have schooled her in foraging for her food.

    But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.

    Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats. And
    the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid all of
    the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up my
    leg and curling up in my lap.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lagk-Te-Sa ("Cat's Tongues")
    Categories: Five, Cookies, Snacks, Desserts
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1/2 c Sweet butter
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 Egg whites
    3/4 c Flour; sifted

    Cream the butter with sugar. Add vanilla and egg whites,
    beat well.

    Add flour, and mix in well. Put dough into cookie press
    and press thru wide round opening to make pencil-shaped
    cookies.

    Place them, far apart, on a cold, buttered cookie sheet.

    Bake in preheated 400oF/205oC oven for 7 to 8 min.

    Watch carefully to prevent their burning.

    Recipe by: Bill Spalding

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 14 14:15:56 2025
    Hi Dave,


    AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
    as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.

    Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.

    That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down
    to Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.

    Buy a small one for starters. (G) I can't give you specific recipies
    using it as I've not had any in close to 20 years, and then it was in
    dishes others made.

    8<----- ||||| ----->8

    Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
    would have schooled her in foraging for her food.

    But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.

    Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats.
    And the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid
    all of
    the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up
    my leg and curling up in my lap.

    I'd have a lap full--Steve calls me a pet magnet. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 16 05:49:32 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
    as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.

    Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.

    That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down
    to Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.

    Buy a small one for starters. (G) I can't give you specific recipies
    using it as I've not had any in close to 20 years, and then it was in dishes others made.

    My search engine shows me an object that looks more like a cucumber than
    what I think of as a melon. And parsing the recipes I have as well as
    those on-line I don'tsee anything that piques my interest. <SHRUG>

    8<----- ||||| ----->8

    Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
    would have schooled her in foraging for her food.

    But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.

    Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats.
    And the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid
    all of
    the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up
    my leg and curling up in my lap.

    I'd have a lap full--Steve calls me a pet magnet. (G)

    We're currently tending/boarding three pooches. And every one of them
    will come to if they need/want to hit the great outdoors. Even if their grandpaw is standing/working right by the door.

    I *do*have some bitter melon recipes

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    Title: Paksiw na Isda (Boiled Pickled Fish & Vegetables)
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Stews, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Bangus (milkfish) or white
    - fish, dressed (680 g)
    1/2 c Vinegar
    1/4 c Water
    1 1/2 ts Salt
    1 (1/2") piece ginger; crushed
    2 Hot banana peppers
    1/2 c Ampalaya (bitter melon)
    1/2 c Eggplant; sliced

    Cut fish into 4 slices. Place fish in a teflon or
    porcelain coated skillet. Add all other ingredients,
    except ampalaya and eggplant, cover and bring to a boil.
    Let simmer about 10 minutes, turning fish once to cook
    evenly.

    Transfer to a covered dish and store in the refrigerator
    to "age" for 2 days.

    Reheat over moderate heat just until heated enough before
    serving.

    Add ampalaya and eggplant during the last five minutes
    of cooking.

    Preparation time: 10 minutes
    Aging time: 1-2 days
    Serves: 4

    Recipes by Dennis Santiago, TWS bbs

    Formatted by Manny Rothstein (1/24/94)

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 16 16:44:39 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Bittermelon

    That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down
    to Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.

    Buy a small one for starters. (G) I can't give you specific recipies
    using it as I've not had any in close to 20 years, and then it was in dishes others made.

    My search engine shows me an object that looks more like a cucumber
    than what I think of as a melon. And parsing the recipes I have as
    well as
    those on-line I don'tsee anything that piques my interest. <SHRUG>

    OK by me it you take a pass on it. I've not bought any, knowing that
    Steve doesn't like it. And yes, it does look like a cucumber. (G)

    8<----- ||||| ----->8

    Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
    would have schooled her in foraging for her food.

    But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.

    Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats.
    And the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid
    all of
    the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up
    my leg and curling up in my lap.

    I'd have a lap full--Steve calls me a pet magnet. (G)

    We're currently tending/boarding three pooches. And every one of them
    will come to if they need/want to hit the great outdoors. Even if
    their grandpaw is standing/working right by the door.

    Smart pups!


    I *do*have some bitter melon recipes

    Title: Paksiw na Isda (Boiled Pickled Fish & Vegetables)
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Stews, Chilies
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Looks like one I'd take a pass on aslo.

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    Ruth
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