Hello Bo Holt!

** On Tuesday 13.02.24 - 13:20, Bo Holt wrote to All:

My first introduction to FidoNet and BBSes in general came
to me from a 300 baud Direct Connect Modem Pak in 1991, on
my Color Computer 2 [...]

The days of fiddling with retro-tech is over for me. I
gathered up all the old modems (about 6-8 of them including a
USR Robotics 56K Business Class lifetime warranty) I had
acummulated over the years, and gave them to someone who
"claims" might be able to put some of them to use for ham radio
projects or something.

I had about as many CRT monitors of various sizes too. Cut off
the cords and delivered the monitors to recycling.

The next biggest space-waster are about 8 old PC cases in
various stages of assembly/disassembly. They really gotta go
too.

Yeah.. the old stuff triggers interesting memories. But, time
is best spent in discovering new things to do, imho.

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On 18 Feb 24 10:10:00, August Abolins said the following to Bo Holt:

The days of fiddling with retro-tech is over for me. I

Same here, 100%. In fact my days of fiddling with tech itself are numbered.

I just could not longer justify having boxes and boxes of tech parts for systems and projects that really would have no benefit in the end. As time went on, just lost interest.

The systems and software config's running here are perfected as far as I could make them. There is nothing to fiddle with, no reason, no desire. The BBS on XP will never ever be changed. The home network, servers, Nas storage, Wifi are all sufficient for my needs.

I kept my Tandy 1000 computers, thats about all. There is nothing to fiddle with those either, I've upgraded those as much as I cared to do so.

Nick

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August Abolins wrote to Bo Holt <=-

Yeah.. the old stuff triggers interesting memories. But, time
is best spent in discovering new things to do, imho.

As much as I love the old hardware, virtualizing some environments in
Proxmox and running DOSBOX-X meets most of my needs without requiring
any extra clutter.




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Re: Re: New Modem/BBS Video
By: Wilfred van Velzen to Kurt Weiske on Thu Feb 29 2024 06:58 pm

I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once Veeam comes
out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving that direction.

I'm not all that familiar with Veeam, but isn't it just backup software for VMWare? Proxmox already has that build in...

Proxmox has basic backup capabilities and Proxmox Backup Server for more capable backups, but Veeam has most of the market share of enterprise backup software. Getting Veeam agents working on Proxmox would be a huge win for getting Proxmox into enterprise data centers.
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Hello Wilfred!

29 Feb 24 18:58, you wrote to Kurt Weiske:

I wonder how many VMWare shops are playing with Proxmox. Once
Veeam comes out with support for Proxmox, we may see more moving
that direction.

I'm not all that familiar with Veeam, but isn't it just backup
software for VMWare? Proxmox already has that build in...

Veeam has a couple of options.

Hypervisor level based backup of vm's (ESXi/Hyper-V etc).
Veeam Agent, that run's on the VM or even real hardware (I use it on both).

Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It does have some limitations though.


Stephen


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Hello Kurt!

29 Feb 24 13:42, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Proxmox has basic backup capabilities and Proxmox Backup Server for
more capable backups, but Veeam has most of the market share of
enterprise backup software. Getting Veeam agents working on Proxmox
would be a huge win for getting Proxmox into enterprise data centers.

I have the Veeam agent working inside of proxmox VM's. They work just the same as runing the agent on real hardware (Doing that
as well).


Stephen


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Hi Kurt,

On 2024-03-01 07:28:00, you wrote to me:

Yes, Proxmox also has builtin support for backing up VM's. It does
have some limitations though.

Like what?

I wish I had a bigger environment to run Proxmox in. I'd like to play
with ZFS/CEPH and the high-availability bits. It looks pretty amazing, I've seen videos of people unplugging servers and services taking a
short hiccup, then continuing on another server in the cluster.

At work I run a little proxmox cluster (not HA), of 2 machines with both 4 VM's running on it. The VM's are all replicated to the other host machines. So if there would be a hardware problem on one machine, they can be started on the other machine. All VM's are backuped to a storage server by proxmox it self. If I wanted to do backup on a file level, it would be easy to do with a little scripting and rsync. But there is no need.

We also have a VMWare esx server, that's backuped by Veeam. It's outsourced, but I do some basic maintenance on both the host and vm's.

So I have a little bit of experience with both. And I don't see the limitations of proxmox compared to the VMWare + Veeam combination? I do know I like proxmox much more, and it's much cheaper if you don't need the support contract. Which you don't because it is rock solid! ;-)


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Hello Ed Vance!

** On Sunday 10.03.24 - 16:10, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

I really desired owning a 17" CRT in 1993 while looking
through Computer Shopper Magazines ads. I saw some in
stores for$700+ USD, that was way more than I wanted to
spend on Color Monitor.

My first computer monitors were colour. I went for two SVGA
15" Viewsonic models. That was in the early 90's. They were
around $500-700 CDN back then.

That LCD Monitor sure beats the price back in 1993 for a
17"'er that sold for $700+USD.

Indeed it does. ;)


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Hello Ed Vance!

** On Monday 11.03.24 - 22:08, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

The Vista Home notebook has Wi-Fi WEP
Since WEP is easily broken I never used it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the more modern phone doesn't
support WEP anyway.

When I turn that box on, as the HDD grinds away loading
the O/S , I watch for the Wi-Fi led to start blinking so I
press that button to shut it

Try to see if a connection *can* be made. A few seconds of
connection time isn't to crack open your pc to anyone over the
airwaves. Wifi from a laptop or phone isn't going to a have a
very large range.

Or.. perhaps better yet, try a Bluetooth linkup (I think that's
referred to as "tethering" on the phones). The range for that
is much shorter and probably much more secure than a WEP wifi.

What kind of community do you live in? Are there a lot of other
people operating wifi-based systems?

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Hello Ed Vance!

** On Monday 11.03.24 - 22:08, Ed Vance wrote to August Abolins:

I wouldn't be surprised if the more modern phone doesn't
support WEP anyway.

Try to see if a connection *can* be made. A few seconds of
connection time isn't to crack open your pc to anyone over the
airwaves. Wifi from a laptop or phone isn't going to a have a
very large range.

Or.. perhaps better yet, try a Bluetooth linkup (I think that's
referred to as "tethering" on the phones). The range for that
is much shorter and probably much more secure than a WEP wifi.

What kind of community do you live in? Are there a lot of other
people operating wifi-based systems?

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When I got this phone I saw many, many names/SSIDs in the listing.
Seeing that is what made me decide to torn Wi-Fi off on this phone.

(as You can see I'm learning how to quote)
Sorry for quoting your whole post, but I would be forever removing text so I could begin answering you.

I'm just not comfortable using the phone on a BBS - yet.
Ed
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P.S. I forget what echo/forum that I have posted msgs in.
Just today I saw your reply to me.

Not looked at this echo in a long time.
Ed
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Hi Ed...

P.S. I forget what echo/forum that I have posted msgs in.
Just today I saw your reply to me.
Not looked at this echo in a long time.
Ed

Welcome back! This can be a fine general-purpose place where people can meet, and where they can learn about specific echos that are dedicated to specific topics.

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Hello Ed!

What kind of community do you live in? Are there a lot of other
people operating wifi-based systems?

When I got this phone I saw many, many names/SSIDs in the listing.
Seeing that is what made me decide to torn Wi-Fi off on this phone.

But that doesn't mean you should not use wif! ..or that you
should fear eavesdropping. In your list, you should see a
closed "lock" icon for most of them. They probably all
represent WPA2 as well.

Basically, the system is just informing you who is beaming
radio signals around you. I think it is a GOOD thing to know
that.

(as You can see I'm learning how to quote)
Sorry for quoting your whole post, but I would be forever removing text
so I could begin answering you.

No worries. I would think there is a "select-block of text"
function available to you, but you haven't found it yet.



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When I got this phone I saw many, many names/SSIDs in the listing.
Seeing that is what made me decide to torn Wi-Fi off on this phone.

That would be a list of wi-fi routers, etc., that are there for you to potentially make a connection to. They are not (necessarily) a list of
people who can spy on your device, so long as you don't try to connect to
them.

Most of them should be password protected and not allow you to connect to
them, even if you want to. Exceptions would be if you happen to live near
a business that offers free wi-fi to customers, or near someone who has not properly secured their home network.

That said, unless you have wi-fi of your own, it does make sense to turn
the wi-fi off on the phone.

Mike


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That would be a list of wi-fi routers, etc., that are there for you to potentially make a connection to. They are not (necessarily) a list of people who can spy on your device, so long as you don't try to connect to them.

Most of them should be password protected and not allow you to connect to them, even if you want to. Exceptions would be if you happen to live near
a business that offers free wi-fi to customers, or near someone who has not properly secured their home network.

That said, unless you have wi-fi of your own, it does make sense to turn
the wi-fi off on the phone

No businesses nearby, this is a residential area.
The only time I tried Wi-Fi is an app for Epson printer I have.
It didn't allow me to print from this phone so I turned Wi-Fi OFF.

I figure having it off show one less ssid broadcast to all my neighbors who use that function.
Ed
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I figure having it off show one less ssid broadcast to all my neighbors who use
that function.

Turning the wi-fi off on your router will show one less and, if you are not using it, I would keep it turned off.

Your phone shouldn't show up to others unless you are connected to their router, or trying to connect.

Mike

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My router is cat5 only.
Just the phone, AIO printer and notebook have Wi-Fi on them and it is turned OFF on them all.

I have another router that I bought when I thought the County I live in was going to offer internet to the people in the County, learned after I got that.router that the internet plan was only for the rural areas.

The Wi-Fi router didn't use the same IP Address as my cat5 router so to me it's unusable.
If I find the device I saw the photo of, I would use it in place of the DSL Modem that's no longer usable here.
I've tried looking thru Firefox History on this phone without any luck.

I'm very trying, ask my wife.
Ed
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Hello Ed!

** On Tuesday 28.05.24 - 21:05, Ed Vance wrote to Mike Powell:

The Wi-Fi router didn't use the same IP Address as my cat5
router so to me it's unusable.

Routers can be configured to use any base IP address you need
to match your home network.

If I find the device I saw the photo of, I would use it in
place of the DSL Modem that's no longer usable here.

I am not sure what you saw is what you think you need. As I
said before, I don't think you can expect to have your phone
feed the mobile hotspot service with Cat5 from its USB.


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Hello Ed!

** On Tuesday 28.05.24 - 21:05, Ed Vance wrote to Mike Powell:

Routers can be configured to use any base IP address you need
to match your home network.

I bought that Wi-Fi router from a neighbor thinking the County Internet would either be Wi-Fi as I learned it was in Huntington WV, or through the local Cable Co. so I thought I would be able to use that router either way.
That was before I called and asked when the service would start and was told it wasn't going to be for folks living in the cities

I am not sure what you saw is what you think you need.
said before, I don't think you can expect to have your phone
feed the mobile hotspot service with Cat5 from its USB.

Was wanting to use the device to communicate with the Bluetooth that's inside the phone, instead of doing Wi-Fi.
I figured pairing the Bluetooth device with Bluetooth in the phone to transfer Data between them.
Ed
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