• I watched a movie the other night

    From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Mon Sep 1 22:09:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Monday 01.09.25 - 09:24, you wrote to MIKE POWELL:


    Funny thing.. I watched a movie the other night, not too
    old (2022) and there was something about it that had me so
    amazed that I was telling others about it..

    The entire cast of the movie with the exception of one
    minor chinese character were all white and heterosexual.
    There's probably a message in there somewhere that that
    struck me as totally amazing..

    And which film was that?

    I haven't seen many recent films, but I'm sure all-white and
    hetro is not unusual.

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  • From August Abolins@1:396/45.29 to Rob Mccart on Tue Sep 2 22:10:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Monday 01.09.25 - 09:24, you wrote..


    Funny thing.. I watched a movie the other night, not too old
    (2022) and there was something about it that had me so amazed
    that I was telling others about it..

    I asked chatgpt for all white after 2020.. and it only found
    one:

    Recently Released Films Likely Featuring All (or Almost All)
    White Casts

    White Bird (2024)
    Cast: Ariella Glaser, Orlando Schwerdt, Bryce Gheisar, Gillian Anderson, Helen Mirren-all of whom are white actors.
    Wikipedia

    As a wartime drama set in WWII Europe, it appears to feature no actors of color.

    Then.. I asked it to go back to year 2000..

    Here are five films (2000-present) whose **credited speaking
    casts appear to be entirely white**. Notes are based on
    official cast lists; uncredited extras aren't considered.

    1. **All Is Lost** (2013) - a one-man survival drama starring Robert Redford. ([Wikipedia][1])
    2. **The Others** (2001) - supernatural thriller with Nicole Kidman, Fionnula Flanagan, Christopher Eccleston, and others. ([Wikipedia][2])
    3. **Hush** (2016) - home-invasion thriller led by Kate Siegel; principal cast includes John Gallagher Jr., Michael Trucco, Samantha Sloyan. ([Wikipedia][3])
    4. **The Lighthouse** (2019) - two-hander with Robert Pattinson and Willem Dafoe (plus a few minor white roles). ([Wikipedia][4], [IMDb][5])
    5. **The Banshees of Inisherin** (2022) - Irish drama featuring Colin Farrell, Brendan Gleeson, Kerry Condon, Barry Keoghan, etc. ([Wikipedia][6], [IMDb][7])

    If you want more examples (e.g., horror only, indie only, or different decades), say the word and I'll tailor the list.

    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Is_Lost?utm_source=chatgpt.com "All Is Lost"
    [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Others_%282001_film%29?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Others (2001 film)"
    [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hush_%282016_feature_film%29?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Hush (2016 feature film)"
    [4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lighthouse_%282019_film%29?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Lighthouse (2019 film)"
    [5]: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7984734/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Lighthouse (2019)"
    [6]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Banshees_of_Inisherin?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Banshees of Inisherin"
    [7]: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "The Banshees of Inisherin (2022)"

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Wed Sep 3 08:16:24 2025
    Funny thing.. I watched a movie the other night, not too
    old (2022) and there was something about it that had me so
    amazed that I was telling others about it..

    The entire cast of the movie with the exception of one
    minor chinese character were all white and heterosexual.
    There's probably a message in there somewhere that that
    struck me as totally amazing..

    And which film was that?

    It was called Love in Bloom.. Made in Australia, which may be
    how they got away with that 'limited' cast..

    I haven't seen many recent films, but I'm sure all-white and
    >hetro is not unusual.

    I don't go to theaters so I generally see slightly older films
    or made for TV films rather than the current big movies.

    But, that said, every show and movie I've seen made in the past
    10 years or so there are always gay or trans major characters in
    the cast plus a good collection of non-white actors as well.

    I have nothing against that, but I'm not sure about showing more
    of things than you'd see in real life, unless the movie/show was
    specifically about that group, which is also fine IMHO.
    If people don't want to watch it they won't..

    Also, my niece is a kindergarten teacher and she says that LGBQ+
    sex is being taught to kids as young as 5 and 6 years old, where
    they would never teach them about 'straight' sex at that age.

    On the racial side of things, I can certainly see having books
    that show a sampling of all people but get this one..

    For the last few years all books in the school library with
    ANY white people in them was removed. NO white people allowed.

    Fortunately, as of last year, the principal of that school was replaced/retired/? and the new one got rid of that policy.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Wed Sep 3 09:28:32 2025
    Also, my niece is a kindergarten teacher and she says that LGBQ+
    sex is being taught to kids as young as 5 and 6 years old, where
    they would never teach them about 'straight' sex at that age.

    Are they actually teaching them about the act of sex, or just that people
    exist that "mate" with others of their own sex?

    That is often a hot political topic here. Proponents of exposing children
    to LGBTQ+ adults claim that they are not learning about the act itself and
    are just learning about how people are different.

    However, if you see some of the books that these folks want included in elementary and jr high school libraries -- at least one of which contain "cartoon" illustrations of two juveniles engaging in sex acts together --
    you realize they are not being truthful.

    They will claim you are dumb for thinking that is the case but, when you
    can see it with your own eyes, you know they are lying.

    Mike

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Rob Mccart on Thu Sep 4 12:03:49 2025


    It was called Love in Bloom.. Made in Australia, which may be
    how they got away with that 'limited' cast..

    >hetro is not unusual.

    I don't go to theaters so I generally see slightly older films
    or made for TV films rather than the current big movies.

    But, that said, every show and movie I've seen made in the past
    10 years or so there are always gay or trans major characters in
    the cast plus a good collection of non-white actors as well.

    I have nothing against that, but I'm not sure about showing more
    of things than you'd see in real life, unless the movie/show was
    specifically about that group, which is also fine IMHO.
    If people don't want to watch it they won't..

    Also, my niece is a kindergarten teacher and she says that LGBQ+
    sex is being taught to kids as young as 5 and 6 years old, where
    they would never teach them about 'straight' sex at that age.

    On the racial side of things, I can certainly see having books
    that show a sampling of all people but get this one..

    For the last few years all books in the school library with
    ANY white people in them was removed. NO white people allowed.

    Fortunately, as of last year, the principal of that school was replaced/retired/? and the new one got rid of that policy.

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    Reading your post had me think about the slogan "Movies are greater thanever.".

    It may be that some Group(s) are prejudice to that slogan and begandegrading it.

    I haven't visited a Movie Theater in years.

    When I am watching a movie on TV, if it is rated TV-14 I go to imdb.org to see what Rating that website says the movie was released as.
    Many many TV-14 are not PG-13 they are rated R.

    Then I scroll down to see what topics under the Family friendly (Ican't recall the actual heading) are listed at.
    I makes me wonder why the U. S. Federal Communications Commission allows R rated movies being shown by the local TV Stations.
    But Iam a person who likes watching The Andy Griffith Show.
    Ed
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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Fri Sep 5 10:50:01 2025
    Funny thing.. I watched a movie the other night, not too old
    (2022) and there was something about it that had me so amazed
    that I was telling others about it..

    I asked chatgpt for all white after 2020.. and it only found
    >one:

    Recently Released Films Likely Featuring All (or Almost All)
    >White Casts

    White Bird (2024)
    >Cast: Ariella Glaser, Orlando Schwerdt, Bryce Gheisar, Gillian Anderson,
    >Helen Mirren-all of whom are white actors.

    As a wartime drama set in WWII Europe, it appears to feature
    >no actors of color.

    Then.. I asked it to go back to year 2000..

    Here are five films (2000-present) whose **credited speaking
    >casts appear to be entirely white**.

    It's interesting that there are so few of them considering all the
    movies made every year.

    It's not like I was looking for all white movies, it's just so
    rare to have all white and all Straight cast members in a movie
    that the one I mentioned stood out for me.

    Even the all white thing was less the point than the fact that
    you don't see a TV show or movie anymore without at least a few
    LGBQ+ people in it, usually in fairly major roles.

    Again, I don't really care if they are in it or not, but the
    way they are in everything just seems unrealistic to me..

    Somewhat along the lines of these new rules, as you probably
    know they are about to vote for a new leader of the NDP Party.

    (National Democratic Party - a far left political party here.)

    Apparently they have come up with a new rule.. To be considered
    to run for party leader you need 500 party member votes..
    BUT.. If it turns out that more than 50% of those who voted
    for you are CIS Males, then you won't be accepted.

    A CIS Male is someone who was born male and, as an adult, is
    still a heterosexual male. So apparently we don't count as
    much as everyone else...

    At least they didn't just go after white people this time..
    Thumbs down to ALL CIS males..

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Fri Sep 5 10:50:01 2025
    Also, my niece is a kindergarten teacher and she says that LGBQ+
    >> sex is being taught to kids as young as 5 and 6 years old, where
    >> they would never teach them about 'straight' sex at that age.

    Are they actually teaching them about the act of sex, or just that people
    >exist that "mate" with others of their own sex?

    I'm not certain how far it goes. My Niece said that it is far more
    explicit than they used to touch on for a hetero couple. I can see
    telling young kids that some families have 2 mommies or 2 daddies
    but at that age I don't think it should go beyond that.

    That is often a hot political topic here. Proponents of exposing children
    >to LGBTQ+ adults claim that they are not learning about the act itself and
    >are just learning about how people are different.

    They had a picture book that was explaining that some kids feel like
    a girl and some feel like a boy and some feel like both or neither
    which she wasn't too happy about - again due to the age. That's fine
    if the kids are 10 or 12, but just confuses a 5 year old.

    They are finding that some kids are pretty much being talked into
    thinking they are gay or trans because they think it's Cool, but
    it's at the point where if, for example, a boy wants to dress as
    a girl and have everything in the school done treating him as a
    girl, that's fine and this can be totally hidden from the parents.

    Also some places are starting to allow kids as young as 13 to get
    sex change hormones (again, this can be done without parental
    consent) but what's starting to show up in some places is kids that
    got a sex change when they were 13 or 14 are coming back at age
    17 or 18 wanting to be changed back. (Wasn't so Cool after all!)

    As usual, I don't care what people decide in that area but I don't
    think any major change should be done before the age of consent,
    especially without parental involvement.

    I won't comment on the idea that I might've been willing to wear
    a skirt in school if it got me into the girl's change rooms. B)

    One minor caveat.. some 'cultures', if a child came home saying
    they were gay or wanting a sex change, they might be killed by
    their relatives, so it's not quite the same situation for all.

    I'm sure a lot of other parents might not be thrilled about it
    either but hopefully wouldn't react quite that badly..

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Fri Sep 5 11:27:32 2025
    When I am watching a movie on TV, if it is rated TV-14 I go to imdb.org to se
    what Rating that website says the movie was released as.
    Many many TV-14 are not PG-13 they are rated R.

    Then I scroll down to see what topics under the Family friendly (Ican't recall
    the actual heading) are listed at.
    I makes me wonder why the U. S. Federal Communications Commission allows R rated movies being shown by the local TV Stations.

    Not sure about now, but the TV station/network used to have to cut out the scenes that gave it an R theatre rating in order to show them.

    But Iam a person who likes watching The Andy Griffith Show.

    Same. ;)

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Fri Sep 5 12:06:33 2025
    Also, my niece is a kindergarten teacher and she says that LGBQ+
    >> sex is being taught to kids as young as 5 and 6 years old, where
    >> they would never teach them about 'straight' sex at that age.

    Are they actually teaching them about the act of sex, or just that people
    >exist that "mate" with others of their own sex?

    I'm not certain how far it goes. My Niece said that it is far more
    explicit than they used to touch on for a hetero couple. I can see
    telling young kids that some families have 2 mommies or 2 daddies
    but at that age I don't think it should go beyond that.

    Same, except thanks to paedos, they do also have to teach them where other people shouldn't touch them.

    They had a picture book that was explaining that some kids feel like
    a girl and some feel like a boy and some feel like both or neither
    which she wasn't too happy about - again due to the age. That's fine
    if the kids are 10 or 12, but just confuses a 5 year old.

    Agreed. Thanks to having some older cousins, I was exposed to some reading material at an age younger than what I could understand, and it was indeed nothing but confusing. It all made sense later, though. ;)

    They are finding that some kids are pretty much being talked into
    thinking they are gay or trans because they think it's Cool, but
    it's at the point where if, for example, a boy wants to dress as
    a girl and have everything in the school done treating him as a
    girl, that's fine and this can be totally hidden from the parents.

    That is something I really don't understand. If they are still a minor,
    how can a teacher or administrator think it is "right" to hide things from
    the kid's parents? Yet, there are a lot of people, including parents (from what I can tell, usually mothers), that think this is the way to go and the 100% right thing to do. They get upset if they find out their school
    system does *not* hide things from parents.

    I don't know for a fact, but I suspect a lot of them are the ones that
    think kids can "raise themselves" and that let the kid set the tone for
    what happens at home, too.

    IMHO, it is the hiding things from parents that leads people to believe
    there is "grooming" being done... if it isn't wrong, why are they trying to hide it? So, right or wrong, people hear about that and assume there are paedos involved.

    Also some places are starting to allow kids as young as 13 to get
    sex change hormones (again, this can be done without parental
    consent)

    As they are a minor, that should be illegal but apparently is not in some states and jurisdictions here in the US.

    but what's starting to show up in some places is kids that
    got a sex change when they were 13 or 14 are coming back at age
    17 or 18 wanting to be changed back. (Wasn't so Cool after all!)

    Because they were too young to know what was going on. I had a relative
    that, around that age, decided they were a lesbian because boys were "icky." They later graduated high school and realized they like boys instead.

    Luckily, in an instance like that, no surgeries or harmful drugs were
    required but, because we are like we are now, a normal phase that a lot of
    kids go through had to be labeled as something it apparently was not.

    One minor caveat.. some 'cultures', if a child came home saying
    they were gay or wanting a sex change, they might be killed by
    their relatives, so it's not quite the same situation for all.

    True but, there again, is the child old enough to even know/realize what
    that actually means?

    Mike

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 5 19:12:01 2025



    Not sure about now, but the TV station/network used to have to cut out the scenes that gave it an R theatre rating in order to show them.

    Same. ;)

    Mike

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    The stations might do that, I notice many of those PG-13 and R shows leave foul language alone during the movie broadxast.

    In the 1950's I visted a AM Radio Station and noticed a Bug (Ham Radio Telegraph Key) n the right side of the Disk Jockeys desk.
    I asked the man why it was n the desk by the microphone.
    He said it was used to mute the audio if someone calling in cursed durning the interview show.
    All conversations were recorded on tape and a seperate head was used to delay sending the audio to the transmitter.
    The D.J. pressed the Key if the person who called the radio station cursed, which kept that from being heard by the people who tuned in to listen to that radio show.
    I thought that was a neat idea so the station wouldn't be getting a Citation from the F.C.C. because of the caller saying something offensive to listeners. Ed
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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 5 19:16:12 2025
    In my original post, I goofed
    The Internet Movie DataBase is imdb.com not .org as I had wrote.
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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Rob Mccart on Fri Sep 5 20:53:00 2025
    Hello Rob!

    (National Democratic Party - a far left political party here.)

    Apparently they have come up with a new rule.. To be
    considered to run for party leader you need 500 party
    member votes.. BUT.. If it turns out that more than 50% of
    those who voted for you are CIS Males, then you won't be
    accepted.

    Huh.. there is now a distinction between "a male who accepts
    their gender assigned at birth", and a hetro?


    A CIS Male is someone who was born male and, as an adult, is
    still a heterosexual male. So apparently we don't count as
    much as everyone else...

    Maybe the consideration is that a cismale is not necessarily
    hetro. But.. what should that matter in a political election?

    At least they didn't just go after white people this
    time.. Thumbs down to ALL CIS males..

    I dunno what to think.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Sat Sep 6 10:05:31 2025
    In my original post, I goofed
    The Internet Movie DataBase is imdb.com not .org as I had wrote.

    I knew what you meant. ;)

    Mike

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to ED VANCE on Sun Sep 7 08:23:07 2025
    Reading your post had me think about the slogan "Movies are greater thanever.

    It may be that some Group(s) are prejudice to that slogan and begandegrading
    >it.

    I wonder if that 'geater than ever' is related to the high content of
    LGBQ+ characters? In general whether a movie is good or bad is in the
    eye of the beholder, and how do you rate that in a general way other
    than by box office returns? (Difficult for made for TV movies..)

    When I am watching a movie on TV, if it is rated TV-14 I go to imdb.org
    >to see what Rating that website says the movie was released as.
    >Many many TV-14 are not PG-13 they are rated R.

    I haven't seen many movies on regular TV that would gain an R rating for
    much more than swearing. In Canada, in the past anyways when I was paying
    more attention, they used to show movies with swearing in them and until
    I think 10pm the swearing was blanked out, but in the same movie after
    that time it wasn't blocked anymore.

    In any case I'm sure kids hear worse words at school than they'd
    ever hear on TV.

    As for nudity, it's so rare to even see a butt or boob that it's
    not something likely to warp young minds. Of course I guess there
    are scenes that may not show anything but it's obvious the characters
    are going to have sex, even if next to nothing is shown.

    We can't have our kids knowing that people have sex.. B)

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Sun Sep 7 08:23:07 2025
    I can see telling young kids that some families have 2 mommies
    >> or 2 daddies but at that age I don't think it should go beyond that.

    Same, except thanks to paedos, they do also have to teach them
    >where other people shouldn't touch them.

    Absolutely, plus the basic don't talk to strangers warnings.
    You don't want to scare kids but they need some guidance..

    That said, I don't recall ever being told any of that as a kid.

    Thanks to having some older cousins, I was exposed to some reading
    >material at an age younger than what I could understand, and it was
    >indeed nothing but confusing. It all made sense later, though. ;)

    Ha.. I remember my older sister taking me to R rated movies when I
    was 14 or 15 and my father used to leave his Playboy magazines in
    the magazine rack in the livingroom and nothing was said if I had
    a look through them. This was when I was about 11 or 12 so maybe
    it was getting close to the time to learn about such things, or
    maybe it totally warped me at an early age... B)

    They are finding that some kids are pretty much being talked into
    >> thinking they are gay or trans because they think it's Cool, but
    >> it's at the point where if, for example, a boy wants to dress as
    >> a girl and have everything in the school done treating him as a
    >> girl, that's fine and this can be totally hidden from the parents.

    That is something I really don't understand. If they are still a minor,
    >how can a teacher or administrator think it is "right" to hide things from
    >the kid's parents? Yet, there are a lot of people, including parents (from
    >what I can tell, usually mothers), that think this is the way to go and the
    >100% right thing to do. They get upset if they find out their school
    >system does *not* hide things from parents.

    I can sort of understand part of that thinking, that kids won't tell
    teachers things if they think it will go straight to their parents,
    but the privacy aspect of that should probably depend on how serious
    the situation is, and if it's a danger to the student.

    I don't know for a fact, but I suspect a lot of them are the ones
    >that think kids can "raise themselves" and that let the kid set
    >the tone for what happens at home, too.

    My parents were not into 'heavy' parenting as long as you did
    what you were supposed to do, although I think they were
    thinking they'd have to write me off sooner or later once I
    was old enough to drive and started working long hours after
    school to afford motorcycles and muscle cars. At one point there
    were some drugs found in our horse barn and they just assumed
    they were mine. Ironically I wasn't into drugs at all, although
    I let them keep thinking they were mine since I figured it wouldn't
    hurt their opinion of me but would have had a totally different
    impact on my sister if they knew they were hers.. B)

    IMHO, it is the hiding things from parents that leads people to believe
    >there is "grooming" being done... if it isn't wrong, why are they trying to
    >hide it? So, right or wrong, people hear about that and assume there are
    >paedos involved.

    Yes, things of a sexual nature have to be looked at differently
    for the most part.

    but what's starting to show up in some places is kids that
    >> got a sex change when they were 13 or 14 are coming back at age
    >> 17 or 18 wanting to be changed back. (Wasn't so Cool after all!)

    Because they were too young to know what was going on. I had a relative
    >that, around that age, decided they were a lesbian because boys were "icky."
    >They later graduated high school and realized they like boys instead.

    Ha.. call it what you will but a lot of women after having several
    bad relationships with men suddenly decide they are lesbians..
    Are they lesbians who tried to live a 'straight' life or are they
    just fed up with men but still want sex not requiring batteries.. B)

    There's also the old 'joke' about LUG's in College dorms..
    (Lesbian Until Graduation..) B)

    One minor caveat.. some 'cultures', if a child came home saying
    >> they were gay or wanting a sex change, they might be killed by
    >> their relatives, so it's not quite the same situation for all.

    True but, there again, is the child old enough to even know/realize what
    >that actually means?

    If they are still that young.. That can be a danger to some 'children', especially girls, in their 20's in some cultures, especially if
    they are still living at home, which they often are if they haven't
    gotten married yet to some guy their parents chose for them..

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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Sun Sep 7 08:23:07 2025
    Hello August!

    Apparently they have come up with a new rule.. To be
    considered to run for party leader you need 500 party
    member votes.. BUT.. If it turns out that more than 50% of
    those who voted for you are CIS Males, then you won't be
    accepted.

    Huh.. there is now a distinction between "a male who accepts
    >their gender assigned at birth", and a hetro?

    No, I'm sure the idea is if you are born male and stayed that
    way they don't want too many of them backing a candidate.

    Maybe the consideration is that a cismale is not necessarily
    >hetro. But.. what should that matter in a political election?

    No, I'm sure they want to be sure that more than 50% of the voters
    are not straight men. That leaves a lot of room since all women
    would fit into the other half too but the idea must be that if
    few women or LGBQ+ people want to vote for a person then they are
    probably not open minded enough to run the Party..

    Some people lean so far Left, they fall off the edge.. B)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Sun Sep 7 11:03:18 2025
    I can see telling young kids that some families have 2 mommies
    >> or 2 daddies but at that age I don't think it should go beyond that.

    Same, except thanks to paedos, they do also have to teach them
    >where other people shouldn't touch them.

    Absolutely, plus the basic don't talk to strangers warnings.
    You don't want to scare kids but they need some guidance..

    That said, I don't recall ever being told any of that as a kid.

    I really don't, either... well, except the not talking to or getting into
    cars with strangers part. Things are either different now, or parents who
    are of my generation and younger worry about it more now. I know at least
    one of my sisters had the "no touch" talk with her kid.

    Ha.. I remember my older sister taking me to R rated movies when I
    was 14 or 15 and my father used to leave his Playboy magazines in
    the magazine rack in the livingroom and nothing was said if I had
    a look through them. This was when I was about 11 or 12 so maybe
    it was getting close to the time to learn about such things, or
    maybe it totally warped me at an early age... B)

    I think part of how that works is the reaction if someone realizes you are looking through them. If they just treat it as a natural curiousity I
    don't think it harms the kid that much. OTOH, if they freak out... ;)

    That is something I really don't understand. If they are still a minor,
    how can a teacher or administrator think it is "right" to hide things from
    the kid's parents? Yet, there are a lot of people, including parents (from
    what I can tell, usually mothers), that think this is the way to go and the
    100% right thing to do. They get upset if they find out their school
    system does *not* hide things from parents.

    I can sort of understand part of that thinking, that kids won't tell
    teachers things if they think it will go straight to their parents,
    but the privacy aspect of that should probably depend on how serious
    the situation is, and if it's a danger to the student.

    Agreed, and what type of situation. If abuse in the home is suspected, for example, that changes things. I don't think that Tim wanting to be a girl,
    and helping him to transition, is one of those instances that should be
    kept from parents as it could do more harm than good.

    I don't know for a fact, but I suspect a lot of them are the ones
    >that think kids can "raise themselves" and that let the kid set
    >the tone for what happens at home, too.

    My parents were not into 'heavy' parenting as long as you did
    what you were supposed to do, although I think they were
    thinking they'd have to write me off sooner or later once I
    was old enough to drive and started working long hours after
    school to afford motorcycles and muscle cars.

    But I am betting they didn't let you set the tone at home, i.e. deciding yourself what you were and weren't supposed to do. The parents and kids I
    am thinking of get to do just that.

    Because they were too young to know what was going on. I had a relative
    >that, around that age, decided they were a lesbian because boys were "icky.
    >They later graduated high school and realized they like boys instead.

    Ha.. call it what you will but a lot of women after having several
    bad relationships with men suddenly decide they are lesbians..
    Are they lesbians who tried to live a 'straight' life or are they
    just fed up with men but still want sex not requiring batteries.. B)

    Yeah, that does happen. I honestly think some of that has to do with
    whether or not they want children, and whether or not they've fulfilled
    that desire. Once they have, men are not as necessary to them.

    There's also the old 'joke' about LUG's in College dorms..
    (Lesbian Until Graduation..) B)

    I have always looked at that like an effective form of birth control, i.e. making sure you don't get pregnant before you get your degree.

    Mike

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Sun Sep 7 11:03:18 2025
    Some people lean so far Left, they fall off the edge.. B)

    In the USA, same thing with the Right now, too. Between the two of them,
    they are pulling everything apart.

    Mike


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Thu Sep 11 08:35:20 2025
    I'm not sure what they have in schools these days. We had guidance
    >> councillors in my high school who tried to get you to talk about
    >> any sort of troubles you had, but that may not be the case anymore.

    I think they still do. I remember having only brief encounters with them
    >in elementary and jr high school. In high school, they were there it
    >seemed mostly to assist us with getting the proper classes scheduled, i.e.
    >you had to talk to one if you wanted to drop one class for another.

    For the most part I think most students never talked to one unless
    they had some sort of problem needing attention, and then before
    graduation more would talk with them to discuss what they were
    doing after graduation, applying for College or University or
    off to work or whatever.

    I don't recall asking to speak to one but I recall several
    meetings with one, possibly related to me playing with school
    rules to get out early to go to work. My last class most days
    was a spare, but you are technically not allowed to leave the
    school.

    Mostly I think he was concerned that I wouldn't go on to higher
    education. He was going on that I'd scored ridiculously high on
    the school IQ Tests and that I should be getting straight A's and
    planning on some major University degree after high school, which
    I never did.. so maybe he was right to worry.. B)

    I'd leave for school at 8AM Friday morning and not even show up at
    >> home until late Sunday night, and week days were often 8AM to school
    >> and then working until 10 that night, barely getting home on time
    >> to go to bed.

    My senior year was like that, with an after school/Saturdays job.
    >I didn't stay out without coming home each night, though. ;)

    You just didn't know the right girls.. B)

    Yeah, that does happen. I honestly think some of that has to do with
    >whether or not they want children, and whether or not they've fulfilled
    >that desire. Once they have, men are not as necessary to them.

    I was thinking of women when I wrote that. I think the biological urge to
    >carry a child and be a mother may make things a little different for them.

    Makes them hornier than men in College? B)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ROB MCCART on Thu Sep 11 11:31:23 2025
    I'd leave for school at 8AM Friday morning and not even show up at
    >> home until late Sunday night, and week days were often 8AM to school
    >> and then working until 10 that night, barely getting home on time
    >> to go to bed.

    My senior year was like that, with an after school/Saturdays job.
    >I didn't stay out without coming home each night, though. ;)

    You just didn't know the right girls.. B)

    I am pretty convinced that there were not too many "right" girls at my
    school at the time... I lived in an area where girls whose families had
    more $$$ went to all-girls catholic schools (and boys went to all-boy
    ones), or they went to the traditional high school or the performing arts magnet school.

    The "right girls" that went to my school had probably dropped out by the
    time I was driving as they'd already been hanging out with guys who could
    drive and had an 18-year commitment to take care of by then. ;) Most of the girls I knew lived at home where both parents kept an eye on them.

    Mike


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  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/105 to MIKE POWELL on Sat Sep 13 08:46:58 2025
    I'd leave for school at 8AM Friday morning and not even show up at
    >> home until late Sunday night, and week days were often 8AM to school
    >> and then working until 10 that night, barely getting home on time
    >> to go to bed.

    My senior year was like that, with an after school/Saturdays job.
    >I didn't stay out without coming home each night, though. ;)

    You just didn't know the right girls.. B)

    I am pretty convinced that there were not too many "right" girls at my
    >school at the time... I lived in an area where girls whose families had
    >more $$$ went to all-girls catholic schools (and boys went to all-boy
    >ones), or they went to the traditional high school or the performing arts
    >magnet school.

    At the time, grades 12 and 13, I hadn't found any girls in my school
    that were that accomodating. I'd been invited to a party one night
    by a casual friend I used to go touring with on motorcycle. There was
    a girl at that party who took a shine to me, and she was already out
    of school, although the same age as I was.

    Funny, I got her attention when I threatened to beat the crap out
    of a guy who slapped his girlfriend at the party. I was invited with
    a few others back to her place for an after-party, and then she asked
    me to stop back in the next day.

    When I stopped at her place the door was opend by her(?).. no
    that's not her(!), so I asked if she was home. The girl's mouth
    dropped open, and she said, 'Um.. just a minute..', and then the
    lady I was there to see came to the door.

    This was apparently a trick they played on a lot of people.

    Needless to say, they were identical twins, and so identical that
    they could fool not only teachers but their parents pretending
    to be the other.. I think that drew the lady to me much more
    solidly and quickly, that I could look at her sister and know
    right off that it wasn't her.. B)

    I was with her for 4 1/2 years..

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 12 13:52:08 2025
    Mike,

    I am pretty convinced that there were not too many "right"
    girls at my school at the time... I lived in an area where
    girls whose families had more $$$ went to all-girls catholic
    schools (and boys went to all-boy ones), or they went to the
    traditional high school or the performing arts magnet school.

    This is true.

    The "right girls" that went to my school had probably dropped
    out by the time I was driving as they'd already been hanging
    out with guys who could drive and had an 18-year commitment to
    take care of by then. ;) Most of the girls I knew lived at
    home where both parents kept an eye on them.

    There's a file I've posted in the Comedy Echo before (I need to
    finish getting the autopostings set up), on an "Application To Date
    My Daughter". I literally filled it out, and gave it to my future
    in-laws (this was 25 years ago). Needless to say, I was approved. <G>

    Daryl

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