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    From Shurato@618:300/50 to Rick Smith on Mon Sep 2 01:47:00 2024
    Mail is going to you, but it's not routing to anyone else. If it is a config issue on my end, I hope I can track this bugger down...

    IREx shows:

    log.txt:* 01:44:29 (732) Sent to 618:300/1: 127A13E0.MO0 (1284 bytes)

    Fastecho shows:

    FASTECHO.LOG:+ 02 Sep 01:44:24 FSTE Created FileAttach to 618:300/1 (012C0001.CLO)

    I don't know where else to look... Its got to be a problem with irex or fastecho.

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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Shurato on Mon Sep 2 13:27:02 2024
    Shurato wrote to Rick Smith <=-

    I don't know where else to look... Its got to be a problem with irex
    or fastecho.

    I suspect it's FE that doesn't have its routing table correct. You should
    have it set for all mail, including netmail since you cannot crashmail in
    IRex (IRex requires you to use a V7+ nodelist which you have told me you do
    not have) right now.

    Double-check your FE setup and make sure all Micronet mail is routed to
    Rick.

    -- Sean

    ... Laugh and the world laughs with you...fart and you stand alone.
    --- MultiMail/Linux
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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to digimaus on Mon Sep 2 15:04:00 2024

    Shurato wrote to Rick Smith <=-

    I don't know where else to look... Its got to be a problem with irex or fastecho.

    I suspect it's FE that doesn't have its routing table correct. You should have it set for all mail, including netmail since you cannot crashmail in IRex (IRex requires you to use a V7+ nodelist which you have told me you do not have) right now.

    Double-check your FE setup and make sure all Micronet mail is routed to Rick.

    I have 618:* routing to 618:300/1. He's getting direct mail; I'm not sure where this stuff is routing to. I changed some settings and will send again.

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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to digimaus on Wed Sep 4 14:12:00 2024

    Shurato wrote to Rick Smith <=-

    I don't know where else to look... Its got to be a problem with irex or fastecho.

    I suspect it's FE that doesn't have its routing table correct. You should have it set for all mail, including netmail since you cannot crashmail in IRex (IRex requires you to use a V7+ nodelist which you have told me you do not have) right now.

    Double-check your FE setup and make sure all Micronet mail is routed to Rick.

    I've got 618:* routing to 618:300/1, and arcmail set to none. Previously I
    had it set to crash/direct which might have been the problem. I've send new netmails out and sent logs to Rick Smith.

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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Shurato on Wed Sep 4 19:10:20 2024
    I've got 618:* routing to 618:300/1, and arcmail set to none. Previously had it set to crash/direct which might have been the problem. I've send netmails out and sent logs to Rick Smith.

    Are you using a Binkley-style outbound? If not ARCmail should be set to
    yes. Do not send anything crash as Internet Rex cannot crash any nodes
    unless you are using a V7+ nodelist which you have said you are not using.
    All mail, including netmail, destined for other Micronet nodes, should be routed through Rick.

    -- digi



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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to digimaus on Wed Sep 4 18:26:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Shurato, digimaus said:

    I've got 618:* routing to 618:300/1, and arcmail set to none.
    Previously
    had it set to crash/direct which might have been the problem. I've
    send
    netmails out and sent logs to Rick Smith.

    Are you using a Binkley-style outbound? If not ARCmail should be set to yes. Do not send anything crash as Internet Rex cannot crash any nodes unless you are using a V7+ nodelist which you have said you are not using.

    All mail, including netmail, destined for other Micronet nodes, should be routed through Rick.

    Yes, the options are "None", "Crash", "Direct", "Hold", "Crash/Direct". I'm using Binkley style outbound. I've got arcmail set to "None".

    Crash should work, I'm pretty sure irex crashes nodes (just sends
    immediately), but it can't send directly. I did get rid of direct though and have tried to send messages through that way. I've got 618:* routing to 618:300/1, which is Rick's Node.


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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Shurato on Thu Sep 5 00:14:50 2024
    Crash should work, I'm pretty sure irex crashes nodes (just sends immediately), but it can't send directly. I did get rid of direct though and have tried to send messages through that way. I've got 618:* routing
    to

    618:300/1, which is Rick's Node.

    IRex will only "crash" nodes that you have in your IRex config. It won't
    crash anyone else since you are not using a V7+ nodelist. So that's not an issue. What it sounds like is that somewhere, you have an issue. Be aware that FastEcho is buggy and cannot be fixed as it likes to srip the seen-by lines in a message and its Binkley support is not the best. You've patched your FE to 1.46.1, right?

    The big issue is you're using buggy software (Internet Rex and FastEcho)
    that may be causing issues and you may not realize it.

    --digi



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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to digimaus on Thu Sep 5 00:56:00 2024

    Crash should work, I'm pretty sure irex crashes nodes (just sends
    immediately), but it can't send directly. I did get rid of direct
    though
    and have tried to send messages through that way. I've got 618:*
    routing to

    618:300/1, which is Rick's Node.

    IRex will only "crash" nodes that you have in your IRex config. It won't crash anyone else since you are not using a V7+ nodelist. So that's not an issue. What it sounds like is that somewhere, you have an issue.
    Be aware that FastEcho is buggy and cannot be fixed as it likes
    to srip the seen-by lines in a message and its Binkley support
    is not the best. You've patched your FE to 1.46.1, right?

    I did, but that would crash ntvdm regularly, so I went back to 1.46. The
    DPMI mode FE was extremely unstable.

    The big issue is you're using buggy software (Internet Rex and FastEcho) that may be causing issues and you may not realize it.

    --digi




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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Shurato on Thu Sep 5 16:57:50 2024
    Shurato wrote to digimaus <=-

    I did, but that would crash ntvdm regularly, so I went back to 1.46.
    The DPMI mode FE was extremely unstable.

    That .1 has important fixes which may fix the issue you're having.
    Personally, if you can't upgrade, I'd switch to another mail tosser
    post-haste. I think until you fix FE, you're going to keep having issues.

    -- Sean

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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to digimaus on Thu Sep 5 19:30:00 2024

    Shurato wrote to digimaus <=-

    I did, but that would crash ntvdm regularly, so I went back to 1.46. The DPMI mode FE was extremely unstable.

    That .1 has important fixes which may fix the issue you're having. Personally, if you can't upgrade, I'd switch to another mail tosser post-haste. I think until you fix FE, you're going to keep having issues.

    Ok, I've upgraded again and am not doing the stuff that made it crash (before and after packing commands). The thing is though, this all worked just fine until recently and I hadn't changed anything other than restoring from a previously working backup. My experiences with VMs are flaky. Often I'll change something and it won't take effect. I'm using fastec16 instead of fastecho now and feutil16 instead of feutil.

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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to digimaus on Thu Sep 5 20:44:00 2024

    Shurato wrote to digimaus <=-

    I did, but that would crash ntvdm regularly, so I went back to 1.46. The DPMI mode FE was extremely unstable.

    That .1 has important fixes which may fix the issue you're having. Personally, if you can't upgrade, I'd switch to another mail tosser post-haste. I think until you fix FE, you're going to keep having issues.

    Ok, trying to upgrade failed. bupdate gave me a file time comparison error.
    If I ran it with -i -o, I got a file size error. I redownloaded all of the executables (and .rars) and started from scratch on that end. I've changed frontend from binkley to frontdoor instead, since I couldn't update the dos executable. Only DMPI.

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  • From Nick Andre@618:500/24 to Shurato on Thu Sep 5 22:59:18 2024
    On 05 Sep 24 19:30:00, Shurato said the following to Digimaus:

    Ok, I've upgraded again and am not doing the stuff that made it crash (befor and after packing commands). The thing is though, this all worked just fine until recently and I hadn't changed anything other than restoring from a previously working backup. My experiences with VMs are flaky. Often I'll change something and it won't take effect. I'm using fastec16 instead of fastecho now and feutil16 instead of feutil.

    Not sure what OS you're on but just throwing this out there, that Microsoft did something to NTVDM after XP where its just not reliable for DOS stuff.

    I've written about this many times in the past, I can't really "prove it" but go by the few times I've tried to migrate my BBS to anything beyond XP and things just randomly crashed. For no reason, just happened. Didn't matter of the hardware or anything that our resident Professor can chime-in on. Anything beyond XP and the NTVDM environment is unreliable... period.

    Nick

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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to Nick Andre on Fri Sep 6 12:13:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Nick Andre said:

    On 05 Sep 24 19:30:00, Shurato said the following to Digimaus:

    Ok, I've upgraded again and am not doing the stuff that made it crash
    (befor
    and after packing commands). The thing is though, this all worked just
    fine
    until recently and I hadn't changed anything other than restoring from
    a
    previously working backup. My experiences with VMs are flaky. Often
    I'll
    change something and it won't take effect. I'm using fastec16 instead
    of
    fastecho now and feutil16 instead of feutil.

    Not sure what OS you're on but just throwing this out there, that
    Microsoft did something to NTVDM after XP where its just not
    reliable for DOS stuff.

    I've written about this many times in the past, I can't really "prove it" but go by the few times I've tried to migrate my BBS to anything
    beyond XP and

    things just randomly crashed. For no reason, just happened. Didn't matter
    of the hardware or anything that our resident Professor can chime-in
    on. Anything beyond XP and the NTVDM environment is unreliable...
    period.

    It was the DPMI executables. I was finally (after using the command.com environment to run the commands) able to upgrade my fastecho to 1.46pl1.
    It's running well now.

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  • From Nick Andre@618:500/24 to Shurato on Fri Sep 6 14:22:34 2024
    On 06 Sep 24 12:13:00, Shurato said the following to Nick Andre:

    It was the DPMI executables. I was finally (after using the command.com environment to run the commands) able to upgrade my fastecho to 1.46pl1. It's running well now.

    Excellent...

    Nick

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  • From Rick Smith@618:300/1 to Shurato on Sun Sep 8 16:26:44 2024
    Hello Shurato!

    Friday September 06 2024 12:13, you wrote to Nick Andre:


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Nick Andre said:

    On 05 Sep 24 19:30:00, Shurato said the following to Digimaus:

    Ok, I've upgraded again and am not doing the stuff that made it
    crash (befor
    and after packing commands). The thing is though, this all
    worked just fine
    until recently and I hadn't changed anything other than
    restoring from a
    previously working backup. My experiences with VMs are flaky.
    Often I'll
    change something and it won't take effect. I'm using fastec16
    instead of
    fastecho now and feutil16 instead of feutil.

    Not sure what OS you're on but just throwing this out there, that
    Microsoft did something to NTVDM after XP where its just not
    reliable for DOS stuff.

    I've written about this many times in the past, I can't really
    "prove it" but go by the few times I've tried to migrate my BBS to
    anything beyond XP and

    things just randomly crashed. For no reason, just happened. Didn't
    matter of the hardware or anything that our resident Professor can
    chime-in on. Anything beyond XP and the NTVDM environment is
    unreliable... period.

    It was the DPMI executables. I was finally (after using the
    command.com environment to run the commands) able to upgrade my
    fastecho to 1.46pl1. It's running well now.

    This is working now?

    Regards,

    Rick

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  • From Shurato@618:300/50 to Rick Smith on Sun Sep 8 20:30:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Shurato, Rick Smith said:

    Hello Shurato!

    Friday September 06 2024 12:13, you wrote to Nick Andre:


    * In a message originally to Shurato, Nick Andre said:

    On 05 Sep 24 19:30:00, Shurato said the following to Digimaus:

    Ok, I've upgraded again and am not doing the stuff that made it
    crash (befor
    and after packing commands). The thing is though, this all
    worked just fine
    until recently and I hadn't changed anything other than
    restoring from a
    previously working backup. My experiences with VMs are flaky.
    Often I'll
    change something and it won't take effect. I'm using fastec16
    instead of
    fastecho now and feutil16 instead of feutil.

    Not sure what OS you're on but just throwing this out there, that
    Microsoft did something to NTVDM after XP where its just not
    reliable for DOS stuff.

    I've written about this many times in the past, I can't really "prove
    it" but go by the few times I've tried to migrate my BBS to
    anything beyond XP and

    things just randomly crashed. For no reason, just happened. Didn't
    matter of the hardware or anything that our resident Professor can
    chime-in on. Anything beyond XP and the NTVDM environment is
    unreliable... period.

    It was the DPMI executables. I was finally (after using the command.com environment to run the commands) able to upgrade my fastecho to 1.46pl1. It's running well now.

    This is working now?

    Well, I've got 1.46pl1 running instead of 1.46 which should send netmail more reliably through a binkley frontend. I'll try again; I lost a days worth of messages accidentally. It could have been worse... Thank goodness for backups!

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