• Re: Z4 updates / Cambios Z4

    From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fernando Toledo on Tue Oct 15 20:17:42 2024
    fernando,

    Between several Z4 sysops we want to start a process to vote for a new
    ZC and move the main node to another BBS.

    We are now 4 months down the road. Has this in the meantine gotten anywhere?

    I understand there are nodes wishing to join Fidonet in Z4 but the sysop of 4:4/0 4:90/0 and 4:902/0 is completely unresponsive within the Fidonet framework.

    As you know he is the spokesperson for the President of Argentina, all his attention goes in that direction as I can see on Facebook and he completely has abandoned his mandates as well as rensponsibilities in Fidonet.

    Please have the sysops of Z4 take the necessary initiatives to deal with the situation and have different people occupy said nodenumbers. I am certain that every well-intended sysop anywhere else will help you with whatever is needed to achieve this.

    Saludos,

    \%/@rd Dossche
    IC

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  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to Ward Dossche (2:292/854) on Mon Oct 21 12:05:16 2024
    El 15/10/24 a las 15:17, Ward Dossche escribió:
    fernando,

    Between several Z4 sysops we want to start a process to vote for a new
    ZC and move the main node to another BBS.

    We are now 4 months down the road. Has this in the meantine gotten anywhere?

    I understand there are nodes wishing to join Fidonet in Z4 but the sysop of 4:4/0 4:90/0 and 4:902/0 is completely unresponsive within the Fidonet framework.

    As you know he is the spokesperson for the President of Argentina, all his attention goes in that direction as I can see on Facebook and he completely has abandoned his mandates as well as rensponsibilities in Fidonet.

    Please have the sysops of Z4 take the necessary initiatives to deal with the situation and have different people occupy said nodenumbers. I am certain that every well-intended sysop anywhere else will help you with whatever is needed to achieve this.

    hi WArd!
    The Z4 sysops have created a zone ZONE4.VOTING where we send the
    proposals and a ZC change was voted on.

    I have been selected to take this position.
    I was for a while with limited access due to family issues
    But now I'm back.
    The next step is to reconnect the routing of the zones against my bbs.
    I take this opportunity to ask you with whom I should make the links of
    Z1 and Z2 since we have to do everything from scratch

    Greetings!
    Thanks!
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  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to Marc Lewis on Mon Oct 21 12:08:18 2024
    El 15/8/24 a las 03:15, Marc Lewis escribió:


    My dear friends in Z4,

    Although I am in Z1 and obviously cannot be a canditate, I would like to offer everyone a different connectivity option.

    My system at 1:396/45 is readily available to accept anyone from Z4 that needs a source to receive and send FidoNet echomail.

    If you so desire, you can send me either NetMail or e-mail (marc.w@marclewis.org) and I will be happy to set up an echomail or file feed. I utilize binkd for easy and rapid transfers of all data. I will be more than happy to get you set up quickly.
    Hi Mark, sorry for the delay, we were a bit busy.
    We have decided that I will be the next ZC and we will connect the Z4
    from my bbs.
    Are you currently the one routing Z1 against Z4?
    We have to start from scratch by setting up the links again.
    The rest of the Z4 sysops are already connected to me
    Thanks!
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Fernando Toledo on Mon Oct 21 18:20:24 2024
    Hi Fernando,

    On 2024-10-21 12:08:19, you wrote to Marc Lewis:

    The rest of the Z4 sysops are already connected to me

    All of them? ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to Fernando Toledo on Mon Oct 21 20:15:52 2024
    Hola Fernando!

    21 Oct 24 12:05, Fernando Toledo dijo a Ward Dossche (2:292/854):

    I have been selected to take this position.
    I was for a while with limited access due to family issues
    But now I'm back.
    The next step is to reconnect the routing of the zones against my bbs.
    I take this opportunity to ask you with whom I should make the links of
    Z1 and Z2 since we have to do everything from scratch

    You already know where I am for whatever you need :)

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll @ zruspas.org

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fernando Toledo on Tue Oct 22 00:53:02 2024
    Fernando,

    Are you currently the one routing Z1 against Z4?

    Please stay away from the hyenas.

    If you need a secure link into Z1 try first connecting to Z1C Nick Andre. He's the only secure contact point to send Z1-bound stuff to, just as I'm the only secure contact point for Z2 and Scott is for Z3 ... all the others that will offer their services are opportunists needing another link on their hat.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to Fernando Toledo on Wed Oct 23 07:09:54 2024
    Hello Fernando.

    <On 21Oct2024 12:08 Fernando Toledo (4:902/26) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Re: Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >

    My system at 1:396/45 is readily available to accept anyone from Z4
    that needs
    a source to receive and send FidoNet echomail.

    If you so desire, you can send me either NetMail or e-mail
    (marc.w@marclewis.org) and I will be happy to set up an echomail or
    file feed. I utilize binkd for easy and rapid transfers of all
    data. I will be more than happy to get you set up quickly.

    Hi Mark, sorry for the delay, we were a bit busy.
    We have decided that I will be the next ZC and we will connect the
    Z4 from my bbs.

    Are you currently the one routing Z1 against Z4?
    We have to start from scratch by setting up the links again. The
    rest of the Z4 sysops are already connected to me
    Thanks!

    Hola Fernando, aunque no hago ning£n "enrutamiento" de mensajes, puedo manejar cualquier tr fico entrante de netmail y retransmitirlo adecuadamente. Tengo buena conectividad y mi fuente principal de mensajes es el Z1C.
    Espero que esto te brinde la informaci¢n necesaria.

    English:
    Hello Fernando, although I do not do any actual "routing" of messages, I can handle any incoming netmail traffic and relay it appropriately. I have good connectivity and my principal message source is the Z1C.
    Hopefully this will give you the necessary information.

    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to All on Wed Oct 23 09:33:28 2024
    Hello All.

    <<Following up a message from Marc Lewis to Fernando Toledo about Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >>

    [snip]
    Hola Fernando, aunque no hago ning£n "enrutamiento" de mensajes,
    puedo manejar cualquier tr fico entrante de netmail y
    retransmitirlo adecuadamente. Tengo buena conectividad y mi fuente principal de mensajes es el Z1C. Espero que esto te brinde la
    informaci¢n necesaria.

    English:
    Hello Fernando, although I do not do any actual "routing" of
    messages, I can handle any incoming netmail traffic and relay it appropriately. I have good connectivity and my principal message
    source is the Z1C. Hopefully this will give you the necessary information.

    Debido a toda la controversia y los aparentes conflictos que se est n dando en torno a los feeds de datos de FidoNet, retiro mi oferta. Me niego a ser parte de esta aparente tonter¡a y de estos insultos. Mi oferta fue sencilla y sincera. Soy demasiado viejo para soportar este tipo de preocupaciones.

    English:
    Due to all the controversy and apparent conflicts going on about FidoNet data feeds, I am withdrawing my offer. I refuse to be a part of this apparent foolishness and name calling. My offer was a simple and sincere one. I'm too old to put up with these kind of worries.

    Marc Lewis

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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Marc Lewis on Wed Oct 23 21:24:34 2024

    Hello Marc!

    23 Oct 24 09:33, you wrote to all:

    Yeah, I consider calling anyone a "hyena" is not very respecful...

    I was warned the way things were going now on fidonet fille dwith grumpy old people and also filled with insults and non-sense.

    Sorry about what happened to you Mark.

    Hello All.

    <<Following up a message from Marc Lewis to Fernando Toledo about Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >>

    [snip]
    Hola Fernando, aunque no hago ning£n "enrutamiento" de mensajes,
    puedo manejar cualquier tr fico entrante de netmail y
    retransmitirlo adecuadamente. Tengo buena conectividad y mi
    fuente principal de mensajes es el Z1C. Espero que esto te brinde
    la informaci¢n necesaria.

    English:
    Hello Fernando, although I do not do any actual "routing" of
    messages, I can handle any incoming netmail traffic and relay
    it appropriately. I have good connectivity and my principal
    message source is the Z1C. Hopefully this will give you the
    necessary information.

    Debido a toda la controversia y los aparentes conflictos que se est n dando en torno a los feeds de datos de FidoNet, retiro mi oferta. Me
    niego a ser parte de esta aparente tonter¡a y de estos insultos. Mi
    oferta fue sencilla y sincera. Soy demasiado viejo para soportar este
    tipo de preocupaciones.

    English:
    Due to all the controversy and apparent conflicts going on about
    FidoNet data feeds, I am withdrawing my offer. I refuse to be a part
    of this apparent foolishness and name calling. My offer was a simple
    and sincere one. I'm too old to put up with these kind of worries.

    Marc Lewis

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    (1:396/45)

    David


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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to David Gonzalez on Thu Oct 24 07:21:56 2024
    Hello David.

    <On 23Oct2024 21:24 David Gonzalez (3:633/2744.188) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >

    Hello Marc!

    23 Oct 24 09:33, you wrote to all:

    Yeah, I consider calling anyone a "hyena" is not very respecful...

    I was warned the way things were going now on fidonet fille dwith
    grumpy old people and also filled with insults and non-sense.

    Sorry about what happened to you Mark.
    [snip]

    Gracias, David.

    Ward me ha aclarado algunas cosas. En vista de ello, volver‚ a ofrecer mi enlace a quien lo necesite, independientemente de la zona en la que se encuentre.

    Sigo siendo una "parte neutral" y no tengo intenci¢n de interferir en nada. Si se necesita un enlace al resto de FidoNet, lo volver‚ a ofrecer.

    English:
    Thank you, David.

    I have had some clarification from Ward. In view of that, I will again offer my link to whomever needs one, regardless of what Zone they may be in.

    I remain a a "neutral party" and have no intention of any sort of interferrene in anything. Should a link to the rest of FidoNet be required I will again off same.

    Saludos,
    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Marc Lewis on Thu Oct 24 09:26:48 2024

    Hello Marc!

    24 Oct 24 07:21, you wrote to me:

    Hello David.

    <On 23Oct2024 21:24 David Gonzalez (3:633/2744.188) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >

    Hello Marc!

    23 Oct 24 09:33, you wrote to all:

    Yeah, I consider calling anyone a "hyena" is not very
    respecful...

    I was warned the way things were going now on fidonet fille dwith
    grumpy old people and also filled with insults and non-sense.

    Sorry about what happened to you Mark.
    [snip]

    Gracias, David.

    Ward me ha aclarado algunas cosas. En vista de ello, volver‚ a ofrecer
    mi enlace a quien lo necesite, independientemente de la zona en la que
    se encuentre.

    Sigo siendo una "parte neutral" y no tengo intenci¢n de interferir en nada. Si se necesita un enlace al resto de FidoNet, lo volver‚ a
    ofrecer.

    Muchas gracias por responder, d eigual manera quisiera solicitarte si e sposible siendo apenas un punto un enlace pra recibir la Z4, estoy en Colombia peor no he podido encontrar quien me de una mano para regresar a fido ademas de Deon George en New Zeland, que esta un poco lejos de mi.

    Vi en Panama la R92 creada, yo fui RC de la R93 y me gustaria volver a pdoer hacerlo, peor ni Fernando Toledo, ni John al RC de Panama me respondedn.

    Saludos y exitos.

    Saludos,
    Best regards,
    Marc

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    (1:396/45)

    David


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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to David Gonzalez on Thu Oct 24 11:31:18 2024
    Hello David.

    <On 24Oct2024 09:26 David Gonzalez (3:633/2744.188) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >

    [snip]
    Muchas gracias por responder, d eigual manera quisiera solicitarte
    si e sposible siendo apenas un punto un enlace pra recibir la Z4,
    estoy en Colombia peor no he podido encontrar quien me de una mano
    para regresar a fido ademas de Deon George en New Zeland, que esta
    un poco lejos de mi.

    Vi en Panama la R92 creada, yo fui RC de la R93 y me gustaria
    volver a pdoer hacerlo, peor ni Fernando Toledo, ni John al RC de
    Panama me respondedn.

    Saludos y exitos.

    Hola David,

    Estar‚ encantado de proporcionarte un feed. Solo tienes que enviarme un NetMail a Marc Lewis 1:396/45. Entonces podr‚ configurar el sistema para que te proporcione un enlace a los archivos y al correo de eco. Las respuestas del sistema estar n en ingl‚s.

    Un cordial saludo,
    Marc

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to David Gonzalez on Fri Oct 25 16:05:14 2024
    David,

    The official language of Fidonet is english ... you too Marc.

    Muchas gracias por responder, d eigual manera quisiera solicitarte si e sposible siendo apenas un punto un enlace pra recibir la Z4, estoy en Colombia peor no he podido encontrar quien me de una mano para regresar a fido ademas de Deon George en New Zeland, que esta un poco lejos de mi.

    If you operate out of Z4 then you need to find a home in Z4 ... especially now that we maybe are going to get some life into it. A new node really counts.

    Vi en Panama la R92 creada, yo fui RC de la R93 y me gustaria volver a pdoer hacerlo, peor ni Fernando Toledo, ni John al RC de Panama me respondedn.

    John in Panama is a lost cause, it is a dead region and even if he pops-up again, these one-node regions are not to be encouraged. Historically OK, but not brand new.

    Fernando should be more accessible, it seems he was just elected as the Z4C ... maybe he could respond here ...

    \%/@rd

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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Ward Dossche on Fri Oct 25 21:25:44 2024

    Hello Ward!

    25 Oct 24 16:05, you wrote to me:

    David,

    Hi Ward, glad to hear from you.

    The official language of Fidonet is english ... you too Marc.

    Muchas gracias por responder, d eigual manera quisiera solicitarte
    si e sposible siendo apenas un punto un enlace pra recibir la Z4,
    estoy en Colombia peor no he podido encontrar quien me de una mano
    para regresar a fido ademas de Deon George en New Zeland, que esta
    un poco lejos de mi.

    If you operate out of Z4 then you need to find a home in Z4 ...
    especially now that we maybe are going to get some life into it. A new node really counts.

    I'm trying to do that Ward, but all of my efforts have proven useless up until now.

    Vi en Panama la R92 creada, yo fui RC de la R93 y me gustaria
    volver a pdoer hacerlo, peor ni Fernando Toledo, ni John al RC de
    Panama me respondedn.

    John in Panama is a lost cause, it is a dead region and even if he
    pops-up again, these one-node regions are not to be encouraged. Historically OK, but not brand new.

    So I thought, I tried his system and is not even pingable, so directac netmails is no use.

    Fernando should be more accessible, it seems he was just elected as
    the Z4C ... maybe he could respond here ...

    Tried netmailing him but I'm gussing he might be a tad busy now setting up, I tried Angel Ripoll whom I remmeber from when I was R93.

    Let's give this another week see what happens.

    \%/@rd

    Have a nice weekend.

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    David


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  • From Angel Ripoll@2:341/66 to David Gonzalez on Sat Oct 26 16:16:28 2024
    Hola David!

    25 Oct 24 21:25, David Gonzalez dijo a Ward Dossche:

    Tried netmailing him but I'm gussing he might be a tad busy now setting up, I tried Angel Ripoll whom I remmeber from when I was R93.

    I don't remember you sending me a netmail, but let me know how I can help you.

    Maybe you can write to Fernando, besides by netmail, by echomail in the echoarea esp.argentina. All (or almost all) of the active nodes of Z4 are there. You can find the area in several systems including mine.

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll @ zruspas.org

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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Angel Ripoll on Sun Oct 27 18:40:42 2024

    Hello Angel!

    26 Oct 24 16:16, you wrote to me:

    Hola David!

    25 Oct 24 21:25, David Gonzalez dijo a Ward Dossche:

    Tried netmailing him but I'm gussing he might be a tad busy now
    setting up, I tried Angel Ripoll whom I remmeber from when I was
    R93.

    I don't remember you sending me a netmail, but let me know how I
    can help you.

    Might have gotten lost due to some *issues* I faced.

    Maybe you can write to Fernando, besides by netmail, by echomail
    in the echoarea esp.argentina. All (or almost all) of the active nodes
    of Z4 are there. You can find the area in several systems including
    mine.

    Unfortunatelly I don't see that to sub to on my uplink, *maybe it's my fauult* I just wanted to follow the policy4 doc procedure, ebcause *some* people tend to get *delicate* when you don't do stuff their way. ANywho, I will try to find a way.

    Gracias

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll @ zruspas.org

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    David


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  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to David Gonzalez on Mon Oct 28 23:04:42 2024
    El 24/10/24 a las 11:26, David Gonzalez escribió:

    Muchas gracias por responder, d eigual manera quisiera solicitarte si e sposible siendo apenas un punto un enlace pra recibir la Z4, estoy en Colombia peor no he podido encontrar quien me de una mano para regresar a fido ademas de Deon George en New Zeland, que esta un poco lejos de mi.

    Vi en Panama la R92 creada, yo fui RC de la R93 y me gustaria volver a pdoer hacerlo, peor ni Fernando Toledo, ni John al RC de Panama me respondedn.

    Saludos y exitos.


    hola estoy con unos temas de salud, pero estoy activo
    en el transcurso de la zemana vamos a conectarte
    slo ten un poquito de paciencia.

    Con respecto a la red de panama esta inactiva.
    y no veo problemas en que levantemos la red de colombia par conservar
    tus direcciones.
    Abrazo!
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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Fernando Toledo on Tue Oct 29 09:49:42 2024

    Hello Fernando!

    28 Oct 24 23:04, you wrote to me:

    El 24/10/24 a las 11:26, David Gonzalez escribió:

    Muchas gracias por responder, d eigual manera quisiera solicitarte
    si e sposible siendo apenas un punto un enlace pra recibir la Z4,
    estoy en Colombia peor no he podido encontrar quien me de una mano
    para regresar a fido ademas de Deon George en New Zeland, que esta
    un poco lejos de mi.

    Vi en Panama la R92 creada, yo fui RC de la R93 y me gustaria volver
    a pdoer hacerlo, peor ni Fernando Toledo, ni John al RC de Panama me
    respondedn.

    Saludos y exitos.


    hola estoy con unos temas de salud, pero estoy activo
    en el transcurso de la zemana vamos a conectarte
    slo ten un poquito de paciencia.

    No problem I myself am on some eye-doctor checks because of I'm low vision and I need to get checked relatively often so I'm on those tasks too.

    Con respecto a la red de panama esta inactiva.
    y no veo problemas en que levantemos la red de colombia par conservar
    tus direcciones.

    It'd be awsome, as I've promoted this nice hobbyand I know there might be some interest on my community.

    Muchas gracias,

    Abrazo!
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    David


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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 5 15:45:12 2024
    On 27 Oct 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    Hello David,

    Unfortunatelly I don't see that to sub to on my uplink, *maybe it's my fauult* I just wanted to follow the policy4 doc procedure, ebcause
    *some* people tend to get *delicate* when you don't do stuff their way. ANywho, I will try to find a way.

    I can help you out. I have netmailed you with more details, please let me know if you don't receive it.

    Regards,
    Flavio

    ... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Flavio Bessa on Wed Nov 6 22:05:20 2024

    Hello Flavio!

    05 Nov 24 15:45, you wrote to me:

    On 27 Oct 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    Hello David,

    Hello there Flavio

    Unfortunatelly I don't see that to sub to on my uplink, *maybe
    it's my fauult* I just wanted to follow the policy4 doc
    procedure, ebcause *some* people tend to get *delicate* when you
    don't do stuff their way. ANywho, I will try to find a way.

    I can help you out. I have netmailed you with more details, please
    let me know if you don't receive it.

    Well, unless I missed out, I didn't get any netmails for the past few weeks, strange, but the way my comeback has come around, I do not want to bother anyone.

    I'm not really sure if my Fido netmails are getting to me, but I get everything else, including this message but not Netmails :(

    In the meantime, I'd really value your help becaue apart from sounding *winey*, which I'm not I've had a frustrating and rough patch trying to love-back BBSing.

    I now it'd be against Fido rules but I might as well ask *is there any other communcation way we could use?*

    Many thanks for your helping hand offering, hope to hear fro you?.


    Regards,
    Flavio

    ... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

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    David


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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to David Gonzalez on Thu Nov 7 01:04:58 2024
    On 06 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    Well, unless I missed out, I didn't get any netmails for the past few weeks, strange, but the way my comeback has come around, I do not want
    to bother anyone.

    There might have been some issue with the routing, I have a direct link with Z3 through Paul Hayton, I will check it further later on.

    In the meantime, I'd really value your help becaue apart from sounding *winey*, which I'm not I've had a frustrating and rough patch trying to love-back BBSing.

    We would love to help. My email is fcbessa@gmail.com, drop me a message there and we can move forward. Despite being Brazilian, I am fluent in Spanish :)

    Regards,
    Flavio

    ... ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (macOS/64)
    * Origin: Saturn's Orbit BBS - Back from the ashes (4:801/188)
  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to David Gonzalez on Thu Nov 7 01:51:22 2024
    El 7/11/24 a las 00:05, David Gonzalez escribió:

    Hello Flavio!

    05 Nov 24 15:45, you wrote to me:

    FB> On 27 Oct 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    FB> Hello David,

    Hello there Flavio

    DG>> Unfortunatelly I don't see that to sub to on my uplink, *maybe
    DG>> it's my fauult* I just wanted to follow the policy4 doc
    DG>> procedure, ebcause *some* people tend to get *delicate* when you
    DG>> don't do stuff their way. ANywho, I will try to find a way.

    FB> I can help you out. I have netmailed you with more details, please
    FB> let me know if you don't receive it.


    hi David! I send few nemails to you but sems to was not received
    please contact me via internet mail at ragnarok@docksud.com.ar

    We are updating Z4 so you can link to my node or Flavio's node too.

    Saludos!
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - https://bbs.docksud.com.ar (4:902/26)
  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Angel Ripoll on Thu Nov 14 19:22:28 2024

    Hello Angel!

    26 Oct 24 16:16, you wrote to me:

    Hola David!

    25 Oct 24 21:25, David Gonzalez dijo a Ward Dossche:

    Tried netmailing him but I'm gussing he might be a tad busy now
    setting up, I tried Angel Ripoll whom I remmeber from when I was
    R93.

    I don't remember you sending me a netmail, but let me know how I
    can help you.

    Yup, unfortunately all of my prevbious netmails got lost, and I was told I had to send them again, so that was that, but I rather not extend on this as I feel I'm *being watched* which is kinda disturbing, but anywho...

    Maybe you can write to Fernando, besides by netmail, by echomail
    in the echoarea esp.argentina. All (or almost all) of the active nodes
    of Z4 are there. You can find the area in several systems including
    mine.

    I'll email him becaudse I cannot really remember how to resend a netmail from within GoldED, yeah, sorry it's been 21 years since I did *LoL*, I'll try to email him.

    I've been busy with work so I havent't had time to work much on my BBS and I got discouraged by some people, but they can... you know... i'll go back to it after I finish teaching my classes.

    Un saludo,
    Angel Ripoll
    aripoll @ zruspas.org

    Igualmente, un abrazo hermano!

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209 + HPT 1.9 + Binkd 1.1 en Debian
    * Origin: Synchronet - bbs.zruspas.org - Zruspa's BBS - (2:341/66)

    David


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  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Flavio Bessa on Thu Nov 14 19:31:44 2024

    Hello Flavio!

    05 Nov 24 15:45, you wrote to me:

    On 27 Oct 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    Hello David,

    Unfortunatelly I don't see that to sub to on my uplink, *maybe
    it's my fauult* I just wanted to follow the policy4 doc
    procedure, ebcause *some* people tend to get *delicate* when you
    don't do stuff their way. ANywho, I will try to find a way.

    I can help you out. I have netmailed you with more details, please
    let me know if you don't receive it.

    Sorry Flavio as I said on a previous message all of my netmails are gone for good, the ones I snet and the ones meant for me, but I'm making time to try to get everyone a heads up and a Thanks, I netmailed lots of Z4 sysops but, you know...

    Gracias, and I'll be in touch!.

    Regards,
    Flavio

    ... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (macOS/64)
    * Origin: Saturn's Orbit BBS - Back from the ashes (4:801/188)

    David


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023 (3:633/2744.188)
  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Flavio Bessa on Thu Nov 14 19:34:02 2024

    Hello Flavio!

    07 Nov 24 01:04, you wrote to me:

    On 06 Nov 2024, David Gonzalez said the following...

    Well, unless I missed out, I didn't get any netmails for the past
    few weeks, strange, but the way my comeback has come around, I do
    not want to bother anyone.

    There might have been some issue with the routing, I have a direct link with Z3 through Paul Hayton, I will check it further later on.

    In the meantime, I'd really value your help becaue apart from
    sounding *winey*, which I'm not I've had a frustrating and rough
    patch trying to love-back BBSing.

    We would love to help. My email is fcbessa@gmail.com, drop me a message there and we can move forward. Despite being Brazilian, I am fluent in Spanish :)

    No problemo, meu amigo, muito obrigado!.

    I'll shoot you an email so we can start

    Regards

    Regards,
    Flavio

    ... ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (macOS/64)
    * Origin: Saturn's Orbit BBS - Back from the ashes (4:801/188)

    David


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023 (3:633/2744.188)
  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to David Gonzalez on Fri Nov 15 12:02:50 2024

    Hello David!

    14 Nov 24 19:22, you wrote to Angel Ripoll:

    I'll email him becaudse I cannot really remember how to resend a
    netmail from within GoldED, yeah, sorry it's been 21 years since I did *LoL*, I'll try to email him.


    Pressing Alt-M presents the following popup menu options:

    Forward Msg
    Move Msg
    Copy Msg
    Toggle sent
    Quit / ESC




    Stephen


    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240302
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair ---:- dragon.vk3heg.net -:--- Prt: 6800 (3:633/280)
  • From David Gonzalez@3:633/2744.188 to Stephen Walsh on Thu Nov 14 20:43:52 2024

    Hello Stephen!

    15 Nov 24 12:02, you wrote to me:


    Hello David!

    14 Nov 24 19:22, you wrote to Angel Ripoll:

    I'll email him becaudse I cannot really remember how to resend a
    netmail from within GoldED, yeah, sorry it's been 21 years since
    I did *LoL*, I'll try to email him.


    Pressing Alt-M presents the following popup menu options:

    You da man, I tried that before bu due to pointing-fingers I decide dnot to ask, but I guess it was that *routing* issue, but really appreciate your message Stephen.

    Chee-rs

    Forward Msg
    Move Msg
    Copy Msg
    Toggle sent
    Quit / ESC




    Stephen


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    David


    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: SkyNet BBS | Colombia | bbs.skynetbbs.com:20023 (3:633/2744.188)
  • From Fernando Toledo@4:902/26 to FidoCoord.ZCC-PUBLIC on Tue Jun 18 21:25:20 2024
    hola Gente!
    Entre varios sysop de Z4 queremos comenzar un proceso para votar un
    nuevo ZC y mover el nodo principal a otro BBS.

    Ya que muchos siguen teniendo problemas de conectividad que nunca se
    terminan de resolver debido a que el actual ZC parece estar ocupado y es
    un sistema disfuncional.

    Lamentablemente muchos nunca pasamos por este proceso porque no ha sido cambiando nunca el ZC desde muchos años.
    Por este motivo, les vamos a pedir ayuda y apelar a su paciencia.

    Los pasos a seguir que tenemos pensado son:
    1) Asegurar que los miembos de Z4 puedan acceder a un echo en comun para
    poder votar.
    2) definir un calendario fecha limite para presentar candidatos y fecha
    de votacion de acuerdo a las instrucciones del policy4.
    3) realizar el proceso de votación
    4) mover los uplinks y cuestiones tecnicas al nuevo host para Z4


    Hello people!
    Between several Z4 sysops we want to start a process to vote for a new
    ZC and move the main node to another BBS.

    Since many continue to have connectivity problems that are never
    resolved because the current ZC seems to be busy and is a dysfunctional system.

    Unfortunately, many of us never went through this process because the ZC
    has never been changed for many years.
    For this reason, we are going to ask you for help and appeal to your
    patience.

    The next steps we have planned are:
    1) Ensure that Z4 members can access a common echo to be able to vote.
    2) define a calendar deadline to present candidates and voting date
    according to policy4 instructions.
    3) carry out the voting process
    4) move the uplinks and technical issues to the new host for Z4

    Saludos! / Greetings!
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: Dock Sud BBS - https://bbs.docksud.com.ar (4:902/26)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Fernando Toledo on Thu Jun 20 13:54:14 2024
    Fernando,

    Between several Z4 sysops we want to start a process to vote for a new
    ZC and move the main node to another BBS.

    Some unlucky choices of words which normally would chase the policy-crunchers into a tree, but I think everybody gets the general idea so just go ahead and do what you think is best for the Zone...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to All on Thu Aug 15 06:15:12 2024
    Hello All.

    <El 18 de junio de 2024 a las 21:25 Fernando Toledo (4:902/26) escribi¢ un mensaje a FidoCoord.ZCC-PUBLIC sobre las actualizaciones de Z4 / Cambios Z4 >

    <On 18Jun2024 21:25 Fernando Toledo (4:902/26) wrote a message to FidoCoord.ZCC-PUBLIC regarding Z4 updates / Cambios Z4 >

    @CHRS: UTF-8 4
    hola Gente!
    Entre varios sysop de Z4 queremos comenzar un proceso para votar un
    nuevo ZC y mover el nodo principal a otro BBS.

    Ya que muchos siguen teniendo problemas de conectividad que nunca
    se terminan de resolver debido a que el actual ZC parece estar
    ocupado y es un sistema disfuncional.

    Lamentablemente muchos nunca pasamos por este proceso porque no ha
    sido cambiando nunca el ZC desde muchos a¤os.
    Por este motivo, les vamos a pedir ayuda y apelar a su paciencia.

    Los pasos a seguir que tenemos pensado son:
    1) Asegurar que los miembos de Z4 puedan acceder a un echo en comun
    para poder votar.
    2) definir un calendario fecha limite para presentar candidatos y
    fecha de votacion de acuerdo a las instrucciones del policy4.
    3) realizar el proceso de votaci¢n
    4) mover los uplinks y cuestiones tecnicas al nuevo host para Z4

    Mis queridos amigos de Z4,

    Aunque estoy en Z1 y obviamente no puedo ser candidato, me gustar¡a ofrecerles a todos una opci¢n de conectividad diferente.

    Mi sistema en 1:396/45 est  disponible para aceptar a cualquier persona de Z4 que necesite una fuente para recibir y enviar ecomail de FidoNet.

    Si as¡ lo desea, puede enviarme un correo electr¢nico o NetMail (marc.w@marclewis.org) y estar‚ encantado de configurar un ecomail o una fuente de archivos. Utilizo binkd para transferencias f ciles y r pidas de todos los datos. Estar‚ m s que feliz de ayudarlo a configurarlo r pidamente.

    Atentamente,
    Marc Lewis
    1:396/45
    Coordinador de zona de la Regi¢n 19 en Z1
    @ sursum-corda.com

    My dear friends in Z4,

    Although I am in Z1 and obviously cannot be a canditate, I would like to offer everyone a different connectivity option.

    My system at 1:396/45 is readily available to accept anyone from Z4 that needs a source to receive and send FidoNet echomail.

    If you so desire, you can send me either NetMail or e-mail (marc.w@marclewis.org) and I will be happy to set up an echomail or file feed. I utilize binkd for easy and rapid transfers of all data. I will be more than happy to get you set up quickly.

    Best regards,
    Marc Lewis
    1:396/45
    Zone Coordinator Region 19 in Z1
    @ sursum-corda.com
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    * Origin: Sursum Corda! BBS-Huntsville,AL-bbs.sursum-corda.com (1:396/45)