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  • Re: OT: horrible 8086 segmentation

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to Richard Kettlewell on Wed Dec 18 06:22:57 2024
    On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 15:11:05 +0000, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    I also remember a zilog Z8000?

    Yes, although also with a segmented memory model.

    Its segmentation scheme made Intel x86 look good.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to Charlie Gibbs on Wed Dec 18 06:24:01 2024
    On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:42:18 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    Intel put the "backward" in "backward compatible".

    I recall the term “backward combatible” used to describe the feelings of violence some people had towards the requirement for backward
    compatibility with certain kinds of brain death ...

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@3:770/3 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Wed Dec 18 18:02:34 2024
    On 2024-12-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:42:18 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    Intel put the "backward" in "backward compatible".

    I recall the term “backward combatible” used to describe the feelings of violence some people had towards the requirement for backward
    compatibility with certain kinds of brain death ...

    Then there's "bug-compatible", where so many people and systems
    have adapted to an existing bug that you can't fix it without
    breaking just about everything - so any future versions have
    to also contain the bug, or at least a good emulation of it.

    If at first you don't succeed, you might as well forget it.

    --
    /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
    \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
    / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@3:770/3 to Charlie Gibbs on Wed Dec 18 20:33:27 2024
    On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 18:02:34 GMT
    Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-12-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 19:42:18 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    Intel put the "backward" in "backward compatible".

    I recall the term “backward combatible” used to describe the feelings of
    violence some people had towards the requirement for backward
    compatibility with certain kinds of brain death ...

    Then there's "bug-compatible", where so many people and systems
    have adapted to an existing bug that you can't fix it without
    breaking just about everything - so any future versions have
    to also contain the bug, or at least a good emulation of it.

    Qwerty keyboards being a prime example.


    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to John on Thu Dec 19 19:57:30 2024
    On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:33:27 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    Qwerty keyboards being a prime example.

    I remember Byte magazine did an in-depth study of typing speed, involving
    both theoretical analyses and actual measurements using video cameras on
    the hands of people as they typed, comparing QWERTY and Dvorak layouts.

    Their conclusion: there was no significant efficiency improvement in
    switching to Dvorak.

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