• Learn, Amateurs Learn!

    From jimmy anderson@1:105/7 to Daryl Stout on Sat Nov 1 16:08:07 2025
    Daryl Stout wrote to Mortar M. <=-

    That's why I like HamTestOnline. While it's fee based, they do
    offer a money back guarantee if you fail the exam. It's all web
    browser based, so there's nothing to download or install on your
    computer. They cover the questions, but ALSO the concepts...so you
    are actually LEARNING something, and NOT just memorizing answers.

    That's like when we started studying, I bought the books by
    Gordon West. They taught the answers, yes, but also the WHY
    behind it. I didn't just learn to pass the test, I learned
    about radio.


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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Sean Dennis on Sun Nov 2 09:48:10 2025
    On 21 Oct 2025, Sean Dennis said the following...

    Which is definitely the wrong way to do it. It's so dissapointing to hear hams ask questions about even the most basic stuff they would've known if they actually bothered to /learn/ the material, instead of just memorizing.

    Case in point: making antennas. That's one of my favorite things about being a ham. But yes, I have seen new hams ask some quiestions about things they should already know,.,.

    Based on some of the questions and comments I hear, there are a couple "Extra" class operators near me that I am thoroughly convinced never came close to even smelling a passing score on their exams. (Not knowing what the legal power limit is, or asking questions about re-broadcasting commercial content, ad nauseam.)

    I'm like you, though: antennas! I have one lone commercially made antenna, and that's the 2m whip on my truck. Every other antenna in my arsenal is made by hand with common materials, and I absolutely love the process.

    73,
    WZ8Q

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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to All on Mon Nov 3 13:14:12 2025
    On Sun, 2 Nov 2025 09:48:10 -0500
    "Randall Schad" (1:226/44) <Randall.Schad@f44.n226.z1.fidonet> wrote:

    On 21 Oct 2025, Sean Dennis said the following...

    Which is definitely the wrong way to do it. It's so
    dissapointing to hear hams ask questions about even the
    most basic stuff they would've known if they actually
    bothered to /learn/ the material, instead of just
    memorizing.

    Case in point: making antennas. That's one of my favorite
    things about being a ham. But yes, I have seen new hams ask
    some quiestions about things they should already know,.,.

    Based on some of the questions and comments I hear, there are a
    couple "Extra" class operators near me that I am thoroughly convinced
    never came close to even smelling a passing score on their exams.
    (Not knowing what the legal power limit is, or asking questions about re-broadcasting commercial content, ad nauseam.)

    I'm like you, though: antennas! I have one lone commercially made
    antenna, and that's the 2m whip on my truck. Every other antenna in
    my arsenal is made by hand with common materials, and I absolutely
    love the process.

    I can learn enough to pass and forget the next day. That's why we have
    the internet, so I don't have to fill my junk with stuff I will never
    use.

    Some people can pass exams and forget what they learned. Some people
    can remember everything but couldn't pass an exam to save their life.
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to jimmy anderson on Mon Nov 3 23:48:39 2025
    Jimmy,

    That's like when we started studying, I bought the books by
    Gordon West. They taught the answers, yes, but also the WHY
    behind it. I didn't just learn to pass the test, I learned
    about radio.

    It's a good thing that RENEWAL does NOT mean RE-TESTING. Otherwise,
    the hobby would've died out long ago.

    73,

    Daryl, N5VLZ

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Randall Schad on Tue Nov 4 13:31:35 2025
    Randall Schad wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Based on some of the questions and comments I hear, there are a couple "Extra" class operators near me that I am thoroughly convinced never
    came close to even smelling a passing score on their exams. (Not
    knowing what the legal power limit is, or asking questions about re-broadcasting commercial content, ad nauseam.)

    I've dealt with those also. The Extras I know here are pretty seasoned
    except for a few new ones we have in my club that did the "three steps
    in one day:" route who are still getting experience.

    I'm like you, though: antennas! I have one lone commercially made
    antenna, and that's the 2m whip on my truck. Every other antenna in my arsenal is made by hand with common materials, and I absolutely love
    the process.

    Glad to meet another antenne fan (or would that be "fan antenna"?).
    Right now, my living situation does not allow wire antennas but I have a 40-foot long aluminum access ramp for my mobility scooter I use to mount antennas.

    I am saving up to buy a Comet CHA-250HD "vertically-oriented dipole" HF antenna. It uses a big coil to eliminate the need for radials. It's
    $479--not cheap when you're on Social Security--but well worth it to get
    on HF easily.

    https://www.cometantenna.com/product/comet_cha_250hd/

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to All on Wed Nov 5 21:50:58 2025
    The legal power limmit is something I can understand.

    For the majority of us, it is something we will never have to even think about. As I don't have any plans on operating on any of the bands that have extreemly low power, and I can not see myself running more than 200W, and at present am limmited to 100W by equipment.

    If I ever do get a shack heater, it would be at most 800w. Though even then I can't see myself buying one.

    The only application I can see myself using an amplifier would be on my 2m simplex Echolink node, and that would be 100w.

    In the off chance that I ever sit down at a station that does run power, with the cost of gear, I am sure I would be given instructions on its propper use.

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Jimmy Anderson on Thu Nov 6 09:37:36 2025
    On Thu 6-Nov-2025 6:32a, Jimmy Anderson@1:105/7.0 said to Rug Rat:


    Right now I'm just using 2m/440 - so my 50w mobile rig is as high as
    I'll be going anytime soon...

    And my 'base station?' A dupe of the one in my truck. :-)

    The Tx'er on my Echolink node is a Yaesu FT2980. So it puts out 80 watts out of the box, but for longevity sake, it would be better to go through an amp. Have the radio put out it's lowest power (10 Watts), and let the amp do the heavy lifting.

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to Sean Dennis on Fri Nov 7 10:40:29 2025
    I've dealt with those also. The Extras I know here are pretty seasoned except for a few new ones we have in my club that did the "three steps
    in one day:" route who are still getting experience.

    I'm relatively new -- just got my ticket 3 years ago while I was off work
    for an extended stretch due to surgery -- and this seems to be the norm. It's
    a "win" to pass all three exams in one sitting, or something.

    I did Tech and General to get started, then got my feet wet for a few months before upgrading to Extra. Even now, I'm still learning A LOT. Massive credit to the welcoming guys in the local club who keep us actively learning and honing skills.

    Glad to meet another antenne fan (or would that be "fan antenna"?).

    Okay, this one made me giggle. :)

    Right now, my living situation does not allow wire antennas but I have a 40-foot long aluminum access ramp for my mobility scooter I use to mount antennas.

    I'm fortunate to have a couple acres where I can stretch out a 75m EFHW (or
    put up a 40m dipole if I really wanted.

    I used to have a loaded dipole hung inverted V off my TV antenna mast. That
    was my first "real" antenna, and I'm still surprised at how well that performed. Very little directionality.

    I am saving up to buy a Comet CHA-250HD "vertically-oriented dipole" HF antenna. It uses a big coil to eliminate the need for radials. It's $479--not cheap when you're on Social Security--but well worth it to get on HF easily.

    I picked up a new 3D printer recently (only $200 or so), and that's really opened up a whole new world. Printing little bits and connectors and mounts and housings and what not.

    I found a template for a loading coil that I intend to print this weekend. Wrap the coil around that template, wind up another 49:1 transformer, and hopefully have a vertical very similar to that Comet to keep in the truck for mobile HF.

    73!
    Randall
    WZ8Q

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Randall Schad on Sat Nov 8 20:02:24 2025
    Randall Schad wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I did Tech and General to get started, then got my feet wet for a few months before upgrading to Extra. Even now, I'm still learning A LOT. Massive credit to the welcoming guys in the local club who keep us actively learning and honing skills.

    It's been 28 years, as of this month, since I was licensed and I still
    learn a lot.

    Okay, this one made me giggle. :)

    "Puns are the highest form of literature." -- Alfred Hitchcock

    I'm fortunate to have a couple acres where I can stretch out a 75m EFHW (or put up a 40m dipole if I really wanted.

    I have a 140' EFHW that is connected to a 9:1 balun at the end That I
    have used to work all continents except Antartica. I need an amplifier
    to do that it seems.

    I used to have a loaded dipole hung inverted V off my TV antenna mast. That was my first "real" antenna, and I'm still surprised at how well
    that performed. Very little directionality.

    I worked Perth, Australia--10K miles--using a 20 meter dipole I built
    using a discarded insulin test strip bottle and some speaker wire in a
    sloper configuration on 25 wattes several years ago.

    I picked up a new 3D printer recently (only $200 or so), and that's
    really opened up a whole new world. Printing little bits and connectors and mounts and housings and what not.

    Those are fun. I want one also.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to Randall Schad on Sat Nov 8 20:02:08 2025
    Randall,

    I'm relatively new -- just got my ticket 3 years ago while I
    was off work for an extended stretch due to surgery -- and this
    seems to be the norm. It's a "win" to pass all three exams in
    one sitting, or something.

    One local ham did just that several years ago...passed his Tech,
    General, and Extra in one sitting. The VE Team leader asked the "zero
    to Extra licensee" what he did for a living. When the examinee replied
    "I'm currently unemployed", the liaison growled "You have too much time
    on your hands!!" (hi hi).

    I did Tech and General to get started, then got my feet wet for
    a few months before upgrading to Extra. Even now, I'm still
    learning A LOT. Massive credit to the welcoming guys in the
    local club who keep us actively learning and honing skills.

    Being an Elmer is the highest compliment a ham can receive. We did
    quite a bit of that at a local exam session this morning...2 new Techs,
    and 1 upgrade to General...so, everyone walked out with a CSCE.

    Unfortunately, with the "government shutdown" (there's a redundancy
    in terms if there ever was one), the new Techs have to wait until the government and FCC re-open to process their info. All the VEC's are
    holding the data in a batch queue, and it might crash the ULS when the floodgates are opened!! At least those with a callsign and license can
    operate immediately with the special suffix identifiers.

    Okay, this one made me giggle. :)

    If you want more ham radio humor, go to the hyperlink on my QRZ bio,
    and click on Selected Ham Radio Humor. It has nearly 125 pages of memes
    and text...several lately from the Amateur Radio Funnies Group on
    Facebook.

    Right now, my living situation does not allow wire antennas but I have a 40-foot long aluminum access ramp for my mobility scooter I use to mount antennas.

    Right now, I don't have RF gear, due to cost, and because I'm a heart patient. But, at least my license "isn't just a sheet of paper". There is
    a link on the ARRL website, affectionately known as "Free The Antenna". You
    go in there, enter your callsign, and the data is populated. Clicking SUBMIT will create and send a letter to your senator and/or representative, to try
    to loosen the restrictions of HOA's for the hams that live within them.

    I picked up a new 3D printer recently (only $200 or so), and
    that's really opened up a whole new world. Printing little bits
    and connectors and mounts and housings and what not.

    I've known several hams who have 3D printers. John, WA8YXM, in Davison, Michigan, created "Christmas ornaments" with a phrase he heard me use (I
    saw it in a meme). There was a little kitten, typing a letter to Santa at
    the keyboard...and it said simply "Dear Santa...Define Naughty" (hi hi).
    He said those things disappeared as if they were dollar bills!!

    73!
    Randall
    WZ8Q

    73 from Daryl, N5VLZ.

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  • From jimmy anderson@1:105/7 to Randall Schad on Wed Nov 19 07:45:42 2025
    Randall Schad wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I've dealt with those also. The Extras I know here are pretty seasoned except for a few new ones we have in my club that did the "three steps
    in one day:" route who are still getting experience.

    I'm relatively new -- just got my ticket 3 years ago while I was off
    work for an extended stretch due to surgery -- and this seems to be the norm. It's a "win" to pass all three exams in one sitting, or
    something.

    I did Tech and General to get started, then got my feet wet for a few months before upgrading to Extra. Even now, I'm still learning A LOT. Massive credit to the welcoming guys in the local club who keep us actively learning and honing skills.

    I did tech with the intention of doing general for HF later, but went
    ahead and did both the same day. My wife did tech only because her
    interest is not 'talking' but doing weather. She likes to chase storms,
    or at least used to... Lots of stormy water under the bridge - medical
    issues now, with us and her mom, etc.

    I am saving up to buy a Comet CHA-250HD "vertically-oriented dipole" HF antenna. It uses a big coil to eliminate the need for radials. It's $479--not cheap when you're on Social Security--but well worth it to get on HF easily.

    That's what I'm looking to LATER after playing with the fan dipole I have now...

    I found a template for a loading coil that I intend to print this
    weekend. Wrap the coil around that template, wind up another 49:1 transformer, and hopefully have a vertical very similar to that Comet
    to keep in the truck for mobile HF.

    Interesting!!! Let us know how that goes!


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  • From jimmy anderson@1:105/7 to Daryl Stout on Wed Nov 19 07:45:42 2025
    Daryl Stout wrote to Randall Schad <=-

    I picked up a new 3D printer recently (only $200 or so), and
    that's really opened up a whole new world. Printing little bits
    and connectors and mounts and housings and what not.

    I've known several hams who have 3D printers. John, WA8YXM, in
    Davison, Michigan, created "Christmas ornaments" with a phrase he heard
    me use (I saw it in a meme). There was a little kitten, typing a letter
    to Santa at the keyboard...and it said simply "Dear Santa...Define Naughty" (hi hi). He said those things disappeared as if they were
    dollar bills!!

    I had access to a printer at work and did some gaming stuff on it...

    We have a laser cutter at home and plan to make ornaments and other
    things for Christmas gifts. I've already made some gaming stuff
    (board games - Terraforming Mars, Catan, etc.)

    I don't know of any HAM projects I could use it for...

    Any ideas? :-)





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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to jimmy anderson on Wed Nov 19 16:44:38 2025
    Jimmy,

    We have a laser cutter at home and plan to make ornaments and
    other things for Christmas gifts. I've already made some gaming
    stuff (board games - Terraforming Mars, Catan, etc.)

    I don't know of any HAM projects I could use it for...

    Any ideas? :-)

    Not offhand, sorry.

    Daryl

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  • From jimmy anderson@1:105/7 to Daryl Stout on Thu Nov 20 11:35:54 2025
    Daryl Stout wrote to jimmy anderson <=-

    Jimmy,

    We have a laser cutter at home and plan to make ornaments and
    other things for Christmas gifts. I've already made some gaming
    stuff (board games - Terraforming Mars, Catan, etc.)

    I don't know of any HAM projects I could use it for...

    Any ideas? :-)

    Not offhand, sorry.

    No worries! Just asking. :-)



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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to jimmy anderson on Fri Dec 12 18:40:28 2025
    On 19 Nov 2025, jimmy anderson said the following...

    I did tech with the intention of doing general for HF later, but went ahead and did both the same day. My wife did tech only because her interest is not 'talking' but doing weather. She likes to chase storms,
    or at least used to... Lots of stormy water under the bridge - medical issues now, with us and her mom, etc.

    This is almost exactly the situation with my wife. She love the weather/storm chasing aspect. (She's a huge Ryan Hall of Youtube fame fan as well.) She's had the study guides for nearly a year now. Refuses to let me help her learn. (She's an independent Millennial woman. Yeah, I robbed the cradle. LOL)

    She did build a 3-element 2-meter Yagi out of tape measure and PVC for our Halloween fox hunt, though. Fantastic job of it. 1.04:1 SWR on the meter.

    I found a template for a loading coil that I intend to print this
    weekend. Wrap the coil around that template, wind up another
    transformer, and hopefully have a vertical very similar to that Comet
    to keep in the truck for mobile HF.

    Interesting!!! Let us know how that goes!

    Maaaaan, I need to get more routine about my BBS rounds. I'm sorry it's been nearly a month. ADHD or SADD or WTH or something.

    I never did get around to printing that thing. I thought I didn't have the wire for the winding, but then while cleaning last night I found it. Someone needs to keep kicking me in the butt to stay on task. :)

    73, my friend!
    RS - WZ8Q

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  • From Randall Schad@1:226/44 to jimmy anderson on Fri Dec 12 18:44:22 2025
    On 19 Nov 2025, jimmy anderson said the following...

    I don't know of any HAM projects I could use it for...

    Any ideas? :-)

    Oh, man... All the amazing enclosure panels that could be cut for my half-assed projects! :)

    73!
    WZ8Q

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