Hello Rob,

On Friday April 05 2024 10:05, you wrote to me:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
(zone, net, node in decimal notation)

I think this could be clarified better: The zone, net, and node values
of the FidoNet address are actually in *hexadecimal* notation, but
only using the hexadecimal digits 0-9, so that when viewing the IPv6 address in hexadecimal (as is the norm), it can be more easily
visually compared with the decimal representation of that equivalent FidoNet address.

Here we probably run into a case where more explanation will actually lead to more confusion. In the beginning it was considered self explanatory. Until some wise guy created an address with zone, net and node in actual hexadecimal and claimed the "f" for it. That conflicts with the idea of the zone, net and node number being easely identafiable by humans. So I declined and added the explanatory line. And now that leads to confusion. Perhaps just giving an example will be better. How about this:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555

Cheers, Michiel

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Re: FidoNews 41:14 [01/06]: List Of Fidonet Ipv6 Nodes
By: Michiel van der Vlist to Rob Swindell on Mon Apr 08 2024 02:12 pm

Hello Rob,

On Friday April 05 2024 10:05, you wrote to me:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
(zone, net, node in decimal notation)

I think this could be clarified better: The zone, net, and node values of the FidoNet address are actually in *hexadecimal* notation, but
only using the hexadecimal digits 0-9, so that when viewing the IPv6 address in hexadecimal (as is the norm), it can be more easily
visually compared with the decimal representation of that equivalent FidoNet address.

Here we probably run into a case where more explanation will actually lead to more confusion. In the beginning it was considered self explanatory. Until some wise guy created an address with zone, net and node in actual hexadecimal and claimed the "f" for it. That conflicts with the idea of the zone, net and node number being easely identafiable by humans. So I declined and added the explanatory line. And now that leads to confusion. Perhaps just giving an example will be better. How about this:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555

Yes, I think an example is a good idea, but clarify that the example IPv6 address represnts the FTN 3D address of 2:280/5555.

I think the actual term for this representation is "packed BCD": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary-coded_decimal
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Hello Rob,

On Monday April 08 2024 20:54, you wrote to me:

Perhaps just giving an example will be better. How about this:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555

Yes, I think an example is a good idea, but clarify that the example
IPv6 address represnts the FTN 3D address of 2:280/5555.

Isn't that self explanatory?

I think the actual term for this representation is "packed BCD": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary-coded_decimal

Yes, Binary Coded Decimal... Some microprocessors even had special instructions for that. DAA for the Motorola serie IIRCs. But I don't think it is a good idea to mention that term here. It may lead to more confusion to those among us who have never come across it. So how about this:


f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555 (for node 2:280/5555)


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello, Michiel van der Vlist.
On 9/4/24 10:17 you wrote:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555 (for node 2:280/5555)

How about something like: "Decimal-looking hexadecimal numbers"

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Re: FidoNews 41:14 [01/06]: List Of Fidonet Ipv6 Nodes
By: Michiel van der Vlist to Rob Swindell on Tue Apr 09 2024 10:17 am

it is a good idea to mention that term here. It may lead to more confusion to those among us who have never come across it. So how about this:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555 (for node 2:280/5555)

Yes, I think that's more clear.
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Hello Carlos,

On Tuesday April 09 2024 17:00, you wrote to me:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555 (for node 2:280/5555)

How about something like: "Decimal-looking hexadecimal numbers"

Nah, I think that will just give more confusion...

Thank you for your input.

Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Rob,

On Tuesday April 09 2024 11:25, you wrote to me:

f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
Example: ::f1d0:2:280:5555 (for node 2:280/5555)

Yes, I think that's more clear.

Ok, so that is what it will be then.

Thank you for your input.


Cheers, Michiel

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