Kirk Spragg wrote to michael goodwind <=-

The Culture works pretty much as you describe... and yes occasionally
the AIs do get corrupted or at least take actions that are somewhat unexpected.

But unexpected from an AI is good - in some instances.

Ex: A while back, they created a small AI that processed flavors and recommend food combinations. It came out with several very unexpected combinations that turned out very tasty.

Looking at our current attempts at AI, I'd be concerned that the AI
didn't start out corrupted/biased in the first place. I believe this is still something of a problem. Ultimately AI is currently being made by humans and thus it will end up affected by our biases and
preconceptions. I have no idea how to avoid that.

I don't think you can unless you train AI on **all** content and we've accurately tagged the content bias.

Today, we have groups that suppress certain viewpoints and amplify other viewpoints. Most AIs are trained by effectively letting them process the media that's freely available - but that will have an inherit bias.

I believe this s a case of the first mover advantage. China started economic reform earlier and opened up foreign investment & trade in way that worked really well for them. This allowed China to effectively
corner large segments of manufacturing and also to learn/copy from the west.

Then they became successful and the Elitists wanted control. And like every time they've gotten control, they've completely messed things up.

China's economy is not doing so hot. To the point where I've been seeing too many articles about how it's close to collapse.


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Then they became successful and the Elitists wanted control. And like every time they've gotten control, they've completely messed things up.

A pattern that some large western corporations seem to be following themselves if no to the same degree just look at the mess Microsoft has made of Xbox. Hasbero seems dead set on destroying their profitable D&D business by alienating their customers, Disney stream services are struggling...

Loosing touch with your market/customers/people doesn't end well.

China's economy is not doing so hot. To the point where I've been DW> seeing too many articles about how it's close to collapse.

It looks like a fine mess. The regional funding model is particularly broken, being primarily driven by LGFVs that borrow money to finance real estate development & infrastructure projects. Real estate development in china is not going well at the moment leaving many local governments in a mountain of debt.

It will be interesting to see how the CCP intervenes to "fix" this and what wider repercussions this intervention will have.

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I don't think you can unless you train AI on **all** content and we've accurately tagged the content bias.

I agree with you there, but who decides with is and what isn't biased and in what way? Its still up to us humans an we each see the world in quite different ways, what seems unbiased to me might appear completely biased to you.

Would this need need to be done by a suitably diverse group of people & somehow averaged to get mean bias scores?

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Kirk Spragg wrote to Dr. What <=-

Loosing touch with your market/customers/people doesn't end well.

No, it doesn't. But as you said, this seems to be a pattern.

The company starts out as "what to our customers want?" and then over time as the company gets bigger and bigger, their attitude slowly changes to "Here's what we will tell our customers that they want." And then they get surprised when their customers move to a competitor.

It will be interesting to see how the CCP intervenes to "fix" this and what wider repercussions this intervention will have.

CCP intervention is the cause. The "fix" will only kick the can down the road to create an even larger crash later (after the people in charge are gone).


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CCP intervention is the cause. The "fix" will only kick the can down
the road to create an even larger crash later (after the people in
charge are gone).

Agreed, however until the Chinese somehow get rid of the CCP we are stuck with them and the boneheaded decisions they make. I wonder if the CCP will fall back to the classic diversion tactic of starting a war to distract everyone at home from the economic problems they caused.

Starting a war to distract everyone at home has been the diversion tactic of choice for failing/unpopular/desperate governments since the Roman empire and most likely well before.

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Kirk Spragg wrote to Dr. What <=-

Agreed, however until the Chinese somehow get rid of the CCP we are
stuck with them and the boneheaded decisions they make. I wonder if the CCP will fall back to the classic diversion tactic of starting a war to distract everyone at home from the economic problems they caused.

They've already started that with Taiwan.

I think the only reason that China hasn't pushed harder for a war is that their economy is so bad right now that a war would make their country collapse rather than distract.


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